1.5 Insane Wyrmic guide

[stirochrehp]

I've gotten my first ever Insane win using this guide as a reference. https://te4.org/characters/193372/tome/ ... 11f88d9022

Died once trying to do Melinda at level 25ish (made a lot of mistakes trying to escape) and another time to... I forget what tbh, think it was a T2 randboss? The rest of the deaths were me trying Athamaton

Stuff I did differently:

I picked up Ice Wall much earlier than recommended, while leaning on Acid Spray a little longer since my weapon damage skills weren't as high. This felt much safer than the many runs where I skipped Ice Wall till later. It was more reliable than Quake for dangerous situations.

The biggest one for me: TAKE TINKERS AT LEVEL 20. Don't wait for the 36 cat point!!! This lets you start stockpiling dwarven-steel materials from the T2 dungeons, invest your generics earlier, and pick up recipes (that's the most important part!). Going into Dreadfell with a couple Acid Grooves and a Grounding Strap, plus two Injectors and some Salves will make life a breeze. You have plenty of stuff to spend class points on before Higher Draconic so don't worry about taking it late.

Put points more equally into Str and Wil until 30. This let me get PES without stockpiling tons of Str gear, plus I didn't have much anyway (unlucky drops). Also lets you wear nice T3 Massive Armors, which help a lot vs attack-based enemies early game.

I didn't bother maxing Wing Buffet and Ice Claw, the benefits didn't seem worth the extra points so I left them at 4/5.

Used those extra points to get 4/5 Wyrmic Guile, mostly for breath CDs.

Took Windtouched Speed second. I figured it would combo decently well with the attack/mind speed from Prismatic Slash (it did). And the Cooldown Reduction rounds up, so taking one turn CD off the various strong %weapon skills let me spend a lot fewer turns bumping and more turns churning out big damage.

Stuff I'd do differently if I did it again:

I'd probably skip AM. Mana Clash is very nice but I barely used or noticed the other skills. The ability to use strong Arcane uniques or randarts would have been nice, plus Undead Drake might be fun since Raze seems nuts with Mindstars and Dissolve. The extra generics can go towards more tinkers, extra points in Indomitable, or spending a cat point on Survival to get Device Mastery (which is super OP with tinkers anyway)

I'd consider getting Undead Drake with the last cat point; I barely used my fifth inscription (I chose to go with Primal Infusion since it dropped). Maybe lose Ice Breath since lots of things resist cold anyway. I mentioned Raze but Vampiric Surge is probably the single best survivability cooldown (which doesn't require disengaging from combat) that Wyrmic gets.

Miscellaneous notes:

Early game is very rough no matter what you do. Acidic Spray feels lackluster early in T2s, T3 2hs or Mindstars are both pretty meh unless you're incredibly lucky with drops, and you don't really have the points yet to invest in a lot of offense. Take the T2s slow and get an item with Track on it (or get it from an escort); it helps a lot.

Once you're past T2s you start becoming godly. I was level 30 before Dreadfell and PES made a big difference, but I also got some T4 mindstars out of Ruined Dungeon and my damage went up by like 33%! The Master couldn't touch me.

Oh my god why do people dump on Breaths!? They easily crit for 800-900 damage by Prides for me, on a low CD, in a ridiculous area. On Insane you get so much loot you'll probably run into either Chromatic Harness or Mnemonic before endgame. I got both and wowza, I could spam breaths every turn until pretty much anything barring bosses was dead. High EQ means nothing during PES since you'll have like 200 Wil anyway, lol.

Bloodcaller is MVP! DEFINITELY GET IT ASAP on Wyrmic. Fights with tons of enemies go from deadly to completely trivial since you'll leech back tons of HP every turn even from just Ice Claw/Wing Buffet. Add Prismatic Slash and Breaths later and you should never start a turn under 100% HP, haha. I never took it off once I got it.

Ruthless Grip and/or a totem with Rushing Claws. Definitely keep an eye out for these, being able to close range covers a MAJOR weakness of Wyrmic through most of the game. Grip is probably better if you get some points in Device Mastery, since it also adds nice flat damage for your Dissolve and you can use it twice back-to-back.


Thanks so much for the guide. I feel like a lot of people kind of diss Wyrmic as a weak class, but it's incredibly powerful once you get past the rough early-game hump, and not dependant on OP uniques (but they do help!).

[GlassGo]

Saw this guide and... decided to play first usual sword with shield wyrmic, and saw that your mindstar superior at least in skill distribution.
So after first char met his demise, second was according your guide - in general.
What I don't understand - where is the damage here?
My char already 42 lvl, has Superpower and PES and I only doing 1000 dmg per round according training dummies (excepr Static which did 100 K on hit for dummy which isn't ral dmg of course).
This tiny 1 K is a complete garbage, dunno what to do...

[Lokean]

My char already 42 lvl, has Superpower and PES
[...]
This tiny 1 K is a complete garbage, dunno what to do...

How are you only doing 1000 damage a turn when your sheet damage should already be like 280 with those prodigies? You should be critting for upwards of 5000 with each hand.

Are you using T5 mindstars?
Are you using Psiblades?
Do you have any crit chance/crit multiplier?
Do you have any +damage% for your main elements?

Could you link your character?

Hell, just using breaths you would be doing more than 1000 a turn.

[GlassGo]

Here, didn't played it quite a while, have bunch of such character that I tend to stop to play around 42 lvl and in general before Far East.
https://te4.org/characters/35987/tome/8 ... f4c5b8a6f5

[GlassGo]

So, quick update to this.
I did this build once agian.
https://te4.org/characters/35987/tome/4 ... cca858cecd
The change is - Arcane Might+Superpower, plus Scourge/Undead drake trees, again mindstars, and specialization on darkness damage type with main maindstar - Seed of the Black Tree (also did DC and have found Writhing Essence of Nightmares which is kinda the same).
I can say, that build plays awkwardly - I invented it to be a king of bump attacks, reality was a bit different.
First, I can say that I didn't even notice HP and all it's presumable horrors - last threatening situation was/were when I farmed Sludgenest, these 115 lvl oose bosses with 14K hp with marauder levels are surely more of a threat then all HP, but maybe it's because I geared up after Sludgenest.
But the trick part is to get there- to survive long enough.
I'll be honest - if I hadn't found The Untouchable, char would died many, many times.
I dunno, if it's problem of my exact build, or problem in general with wyrmics.
When survival depends on specific item, that mean build is bad, in my opinion.
So, early on bump damage is none-exiastant, for real. But Tentacled Wings/Maggot Breath will be your your tool to solve problems with damage. ump damage none-existant even after I took SP lol, it changed almost nothing.
The good point of wyrmic with magical skil trees is - besides those trees themself - you can get Chant of Fortitude, which will amplify/be amplified by Wild Growth, and Icy Skin, those three together will net you 1K hp.
Mindstar damage is noticeable lower than weapon, but enough for your needs and you have utilities - Leaves Tide, Torn Grab and Nature's Equlibrium for damage/healing, all of which are amasing.
I can say, that that wyrmic was surprisingly tanky - besides the last fight lol.
Damage was not the highest, but enough to clear out whole HP and al it's vaults with any dangerous situation arising - something like Tentacled Wings4-5K despite I didn't have gear with blight damage.
Side note - people often telling the have insanity problems, but with SotBT you can have as mcuh insanity as you need, cause procs of Tendril Eruption gives you resource, so for example you can use Augment Despair along with Maggot Breath if you feel like that.
Died in final fight due well, common mistake - aggroed that reaver boss before eliminating the one with staff, and I didnt' close demonic and undead portal, so there were darkness like on turn 4-5, so actually fight is quite doable, it's not the build problem, but my personal tactical decisions that were made, I think everyone will agree that not many survive attacks form two bosses at once.