Has Alt Trollmire been axed?

[Steven Aus]

I'm always getting Prox the Mighty as the level 3 boss. Is there an Alt Trollmire active in 1.5.5?

[HousePet]

It could be because of your starting zone.
It can't Alt if you start in it.

[Steven Aus]

No, I'm playing Thalore Brawler (with my Race XP Tweak addon, hehe) and I've been playing the same race/class for awhile.

[Steven Aus]

In my last 10 or so games (mostly with Thalore Brawler) I have got Prox as the Trollmire boss. In fact since I started playing again recently, Prox has been the Trollmire L3 boss all the time. Although some of those were Cornac, a good amount were Thalore Brawler (who starts in Norgos' Lair). Can this be checked out to see if there is a bug?

[Steven Aus]

Maybe it's quite rare, or just RNG? I just got the alternate one finally.

[Coldbringer]

I do think alt-zones are rare. I just got alt Scintillating caves for the first time ever, and that's after about a dozen or more characters went there.

Alt maze only a couple times, alt sandworm lairs a bunch of times, never seen alt Daikara

[Steven Aus]

I guess when they're really rare it greatly varies by which RNG each person gets. One time I got about three Alt Mazes in a row, and yet, I have only got Alt Trollmire once in recent history and a few times more a a few years ago when I first started ToME.

Also, the more games you play in a short amount of time the more likely you are to see the alt zones and remember them.

I actually prefer Alt Maze to the regular Maze. It has four levels and a lot more experience, but you do need to be a bit more careful around it, as once you've jumped down one of the holes in the floor you can't go back up, and you need the Rod of Recall. Also unlike regular Maze which has a portal to the entrance on the last (second) floor, Alt Maze's last (fourth) level requires you to Rod of Recall out.

In contrast, Alt Sandworm Tunnels has two levels, one really long one where you follow big sandworms through open areas to the east end of the map, and a short one with the boss at level 2. Even though Alt Sandworm 1 is very big, I still think you get more experience and treasure from Regular Sandworm Levels 1-4 (and it's also easier, though more game turn consuming, to follow the small sandworms around the map than the huge sandworms on a long pilgrimage from west to east, provided you can clear the open areas with monsters and treasure/chests quick enough to follow them - although if you rest in an open area you're safe until the next train/worm arrives ).