Opinion on Cleave / Surge / Repel

[kraazivaan]

So I'm on my first run through as a Cursed, and I noticed that they have 3 particular sustains: Cleave, Surge, and Repel. Each of these can only be on if the other two are off. Further, each gets a bonus for a different kind of weapon loadout: a single 2-handed weapon, dual-wielding, or sword and shield.

So the question for the room is:
1) Have you found any of these abilities to be particularly useful / useless?
2) Have you found it worthwhile to align your equipment so as to get the bonus to one of them?

[Number43]

Well cleave and repel are a LOT more useful if you use the appropriate weapon type, but it's a lot more viable to use surge without dual wielding.

[bpat]

Surge is way better than the other two. I think the best equipment setup is 1h + Psiblade but that's independent of the defense stat bonus since that will never be high enough to matter on Cursed.

[kraazivaan]

Thank you for the quick replies; that's pretty much exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

[ster]

Surge is way better than the other two. I think the best equipment setup is 1h + Psiblade but that's independent of the defense stat bonus since that will never be high enough to matter on Cursed.

just LOL if you aren't running ogre master race on every weapon damage class


(also for what it's worth i don't like movespeed boosts but surge's is like 100% at high will which is good enough. personally i might take repel but IIRC the rates are complete ass so just use surge)

[posetcay]

In theory I think that Naloren+Shield+Repel while going 1/1/1/5 in Gloom cursed would arguably be strongest, but sadly I didnt get the chance to test it, I would happy if someone tried and told me the results

[AbsoluteO]

I personally like repel with ogre the most. It ends at 30-36% is chance to block at 4/5 which is incredibly good.

Here's my nm roguelike run http://te4.org/characters/140043/tome/d ... 5032ac8ef4