Armor and Block

[Dracos]

Two dumb questions:

1)Any way to show armor effects in the logs? Whenever I have a high armor, it basically ends up showing a lot of "So and so took retaliation" without actually showing the hit for 0 that happened.

2)It seems like it counts armor Before Block (usually a good thing), but if Armor soaks everything, block doesn't trigger counterstrike at all? Is that expected? It seems a sort of weird early-game interaction (Later enemies consistently beat even high armor).

I went early stacking armor + tinker to basically get armor high enough to just ignore a lot of the early enemies, but that also had an effect that counterstriking never showed up when blocking.

[Radon26]

2)
armour hardiness at 100? take it a bit lower maybe?
also, armor works only for weapon damage, no matter the type.

block, works for any type of damage, anyhow referenced in the shield stats, no matter, weapon, spell, or any other source of said damage.

[jenx]

2)
armour hardiness at 100? take it a bit lower maybe?
also, armor works only for weapon damage, no matter the type.

block, works for any type of damage, anyhow referenced in the shield stats, no matter, weapon, spell, or any other source of said damage.

ARe you positive about that? If so, why doesn't it say that anywhere in the game? it is of great significance!!!

[ibanix]

2)
armour hardiness at 100? take it a bit lower maybe?
also, armor works only for weapon damage, no matter the type.

block, works for any type of damage, anyhow referenced in the shield stats, no matter, weapon, spell, or any other source of said damage.

ARe you positive about that? If so, why doesn't it say that anywhere in the game? it is of great significance!!!

Block *only* works for the damage types of the shield. A basic shield only blocks physical damage. A shield with +resist to lightning and fire will also block lightning and fire damage.

But yes, a shield will block damage from any source.

Somewhat surprisingly (at least to me), Block will actually *decrease* your Defense value while active. It also seems to increase spell save under some conditions (which I am unclear on).

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activate = function(self, eff)
		eff.tmpid = self:addTemporaryValue("block", eff.power)
		eff.def = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_def", -eff.power)
		eff.ctdef = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_def_ct", eff.power)
		if eff.properties.sp then eff.spell = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_spellresist", eff.power) end
	end,

[jenx]

2)
armour hardiness at 100? take it a bit lower maybe?
also, armor works only for weapon damage, no matter the type.

block, works for any type of damage, anyhow referenced in the shield stats, no matter, weapon, spell, or any other source of said damage.

ARe you positive about that? If so, why doesn't it say that anywhere in the game? it is of great significance!!!

Block *only* works for the damage types of the shield. A basic shield only blocks physical damage. A shield with +resist to lightning and fire will also block lightning and fire damage.

But yes, a shield will block damage from any source.

Somewhat surprisingly (at least to me), Block will actually *decrease* your Defense value while active. It also seems to increase spell save under some conditions (which I am unclear on).

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activate = function(self, eff)
		eff.tmpid = self:addTemporaryValue("block", eff.power)
		eff.def = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_def", -eff.power)
		eff.ctdef = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_def_ct", eff.power)
		if eff.properties.sp then eff.spell = self:addTemporaryValue("combat_spellresist", eff.power) end
	end,

that code says it adds spellsave only when blocking, which is surprising too.

[HousePet]

The block code has some unused functions. That one is an ego that gave increased spellsave when blocking.