Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

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Mordy
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Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#1 Post by Mordy »

New users tend to get confused by the weapon swaps and the shortcuts for it. I'd suggest then those few tweaks to make it less of an issue :
- no class starts with weapons in the swap except TW which have that special feature for
- instead the extra equipment will be just there in their inventory
- disable the keyboard shortcut swap button if the offhand isn't equiped

Those small tweaks will prevent the new players confusion cases of :
- why is my archer/rogue suddntly using a crappy sling, instead of my shiny artefact bow/daggers/other
- where is my weapon? why am I doing no damage at all?

Would there be any objections here? Some cases those changes would be detrimental for?

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#2 Post by Stuntofthelitter »

I'm not seeing a downside to this.
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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#3 Post by Radon26 »

if you are in inventory and looking at your offhand, you character will not switch to offhand unless you close the window on the offhand.
or unless you equip something.

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#4 Post by Mordy »

Careful with that equip thing though, it'd cause you to spend two turns at once, one for the switch and one for the equip change.

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#5 Post by Radon26 »

then maybe you can't equip something else, if you are looking at the unequipped set.? or give a warning.

also, stun, this is idea section, not addon section.

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#6 Post by Stuntofthelitter »

Who said anything about addons?
<astralInferno> poor stunt
<astralInferno> you suffer so that others may suffer in the intended way

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#7 Post by Radon26 »

i am sorry, apparently cant read
"I'm not seeing a downside to this."
"I'm not seeing a download to this."
my bad

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#8 Post by xnd »

semi-related to this, the ability to drag-swap between hands might be good. sometimes, trying to replace a weapon with one in inventory, it goes in the wrong place and I have to move things in and out of a packed inventory to get them where I want them instead of just being able to drag it from one hand to another (I have 4) or to telekinetic grasp.

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#9 Post by Nagyhal »

I actually think this would be fantastic. The same things have bothered me before, in fact.

I'd implement it, but I have a lot of ToME stuff on my plate! Still, this has been duly noted.

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Re: Tweaks for more userfriendlyness on weapon swap

#10 Post by Zizzo »

xnd wrote:semi-related to this, the ability to drag-swap between hands might be good. sometimes, trying to replace a weapon with one in inventory, it goes in the wrong place and I have to move things in and out of a packed inventory to get them where I want them instead of just being able to drag it from one hand to another (I have 4) or to telekinetic grasp.
Hmm, I haven't tested Enhanced Wield Replace with whatever addon you're using to get four arms, but it sounds like it might address the problem.
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