Is there a good way to beat your doomed clone?
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- Yeek
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Is there a good way to beat your doomed clone?
I have got as far as the doomed clone fight twice - first with my Thalore Oozemancer, which I had to abandon after a 20-minute stalemate, and second with my Cornac Skirmisher, who just died earlier today. Is this a winnable fight with every character, or are there certain class/race combos that do better against their clones (maybe because the AI is worse at certain playstyles, or something)?
Basically I think I just played badly with my skirmisher, and probably should have recalled out of there much earlier. But I am still a bit sore about losing only my second character to get to the East, so am wondering if I did something seriously stupid in even trying to take on my clone.
I was also wondering it might work to do something cheesy - like putting on a bunch of terrible equipment, waiting till the clone spawns, and then putting all your proper equipment back on. Will the clone swap too? Or does he get stuck with, say, an antimagic disruption item messing with all of his good abilities, while you're free to switch items and blast him?
Basically I think I just played badly with my skirmisher, and probably should have recalled out of there much earlier. But I am still a bit sore about losing only my second character to get to the East, so am wondering if I did something seriously stupid in even trying to take on my clone.
I was also wondering it might work to do something cheesy - like putting on a bunch of terrible equipment, waiting till the clone spawns, and then putting all your proper equipment back on. Will the clone swap too? Or does he get stuck with, say, an antimagic disruption item messing with all of his good abilities, while you're free to switch items and blast him?
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Your shade cannot switch equipment. If the corrupter summons your shade while you're unarmed, the shade will also be unarmed.
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Feels scummy though.
Option two is to convince Darkgod to make the encounter a bit more fair.
Option two is to convince Darkgod to make the encounter a bit more fair.
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Regarding winnable fight...Honestly sometimes no. Every time I've gone in there, I've had one standout defence that I couldn't get through - Defence, armour, whatever. Sometimes you're just too hard for yourself to kill.
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Re: Is there a good way to beat your doomed clone?
The AI isn't smart about ability use order. Also, I think the clone is spawned without energy and between your turns so you should always get a free turn on it. Finally, the AI isn't discriminating about using status removers.
I wouldn't expect brawlers to have trouble: they have a very strong shutdown, a sustain remover, and are attack order dependent. If you're there to get Doomed unlocked I suspect they're the easiest way. If not try the rod of recall to break out of a stalemate and see if you can come back at a higher level.
I wouldn't expect brawlers to have trouble: they have a very strong shutdown, a sustain remover, and are attack order dependent. If you're there to get Doomed unlocked I suspect they're the easiest way. If not try the rod of recall to break out of a stalemate and see if you can come back at a higher level.
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Re: Is there a good way to beat your doomed clone?
Oh crikey, as a skirmisher that would have made him laughably easy. I might do that next time to get the unlock, although I agree it seems way too scummy to use as a general strategy on every playthrough.64legos wrote:Your shade cannot switch equipment. If the corrupter summons your shade while you're unarmed, the shade will also be unarmed.
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Died on him 2 days ago on my otherwise-unkillable doombringer.
So, yes, sometimes this fight is not meant to be fair.
So, yes, sometimes this fight is not meant to be fair.
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I suggest adding full or partial damage conversion to it so you could itemize against it.
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I just finished the Dark Crypt on Insane/Shalole Corruptor level 50.
The following trick made it possible: Disable your bone shield, then put it back on after the clone is summoned. Bone shield will start at full charges and at least in this battle, AI didn't activate the shield at all. It took only two shots, one to trigger cauterize and one to finish things of.
No, where in the shiet is Life Drinker? Wasn't that a guaranteed drop from the cultist??
The following trick made it possible: Disable your bone shield, then put it back on after the clone is summoned. Bone shield will start at full charges and at least in this battle, AI didn't activate the shield at all. It took only two shots, one to trigger cauterize and one to finish things of.
No, where in the shiet is Life Drinker? Wasn't that a guaranteed drop from the cultist??
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That's how my bulwark beat it. Everpyre blade for 50% fire conversion.0player wrote:I suggest adding full or partial damage conversion to it so you could itemize against it.
Then just put up a shield with fire resistance.
It helped that it only used block once during the fight.
