Please help: 1.2.0 dev test

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themuffinthief · #31 Post by **themuffinthief** » Mon May 05, 2014 2:02 am

supermini wrote:The new screen effect when you get stunned literally makes me nauseous. It's really not a good idea, especially considering how often you get stunned in an average game.

I'd really hate to have to turn off all the graphical effects because of it.

This x1000. I'd either turn off graphics (and I don't want to) or quit.

Svendre · #32 Post by **Svendre** » Mon May 05, 2014 4:58 am

My comments so far playing a Sun Pally:

Initially chat (and I guess all key presses) were doubling up. Deleted te4-web.dll and seemed to clear this up. It caused me confusion early on because I use the keyboard to enter zones and it would enter then back me out seemingly randomly.

I second that Sun Pal should probably start with a 2-hander in case you want to train that route.

While fighting the boss in the R. Camp, I leveled up after swinging at her but not killing her yet (??) She was at 45hp, and I killed her the next swing. I'm fairly sure I didn't damage anything else anywhere.

I am having difficulty telling the difference between normal/uniques with the new color/border scheme. I didn't know there was a way to switch it back to the old style borders and probably wouldn't have guessed it was control-T without reading previous message. I prefer the greater visual distinction between the two.

The newer Sun Paladin does seem quite a bit stronger (not complaining) and I did not feel that critters on insane were hitting so obscenely hard. From this perspective I felt it was more playable. On the flip side, the increased # of unique/rares which you could encounter at the same time led me into several situations where status effects were overwhelmingly annoying. Even with wild infusions in some cases there was no way to prevent them from multiplying to the point where death came from being totally useless rather than getting smashed. In retrospect, I almost preferred them hitting harder to the more annoying endless stream of status effects. Being stunned, blinded, confused, etc. etc. all at once could be amusing when it results in normal creatures or a single unique killing you - but not three times as many effects at once. I don't really have a solution for this except perhaps to cap the total number of negative status effects you can have at one time and/or give characters some temporary extra resistance for the same ones repeating in a certain time frame.

tokariew · #33 Post by **tokariew** » Mon May 05, 2014 11:59 am

hmm, the new alternative daikara is fun, but no damage from lava floor? i think that after getting to temporal daikara from this temporal rift should to be the same theme boss.

hmm, last talent from energetic alchemy, don't work properly, sometimes it displaying the effect, when creature is out of radious and don't damage it. It shouldn't be displaying effect on invisible creature too i think. i kill the greater mummy boss, because it was hit by this talent, and i knew where he is

When neutral creature is hit by spell, and turn to hostile, the frame around it don' change.

Alchemist golem sometimes use eye beam, when the creature is not in straight line, so it wasting mana and turn. He attack the walls with it.

And the new alchemic is fun. i like it

. And i don't use fire alchemy.

Grahammm · #34 Post by **Grahammm** » Mon May 05, 2014 3:12 pm

[linux64bit 1.2.0test6] When starting up the following messages are logged

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[MODULE LOADER] module MD5      41e1b4ba7ee80d6504543b637526dd79        computed in     402
Checking addon  tome-addon-dev.teaa     :: (as dir)     false   :: (as teaa)    15
Checking addon  tome-items-vault.teaa   :: (as dir)     false   :: (as teaa)    17
Checking addon  tome-stone-wardens.teaa :: (as dir)     false   :: (as teaa)    19
Preloading DLC class    mod.class.StoneWardensDLC
DLCD for        tome-stone-wardens      1.1.6   mod/class/StoneWardensDLC.lua   got a result of size    0
Removing addon stone-wardens: DLC class not received
Removing addon addon-dev: cheat mode required

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[LOG]   #LIGHT_RED#Online profile disabled(switching to offline profile) due to invalid addon hash (tome-items-vault-1.1.6).
[MODULE LOADER] done loading module     Tales of Maj'Eyal: Age of Ascendancy

Which results in the Stone Warden class not being available and using the offline profile.

Grahammm · #35 Post by **Grahammm** » Mon May 05, 2014 4:33 pm

As a Wymic, having activated "Icy Skin". the character sheet does not show anything under "Damage When Hit"

ZyZ · #36 Post by **ZyZ** » Mon May 05, 2014 4:59 pm

Svendre wrote: Initially chat (and I guess all key presses) were doubling up. Deleted te4-web.dll and seemed to clear this up.

Wow this would be huge. Im going to test it when i come home. This was definitely one of the biggest issues in test6.

tokariew · #37 Post by **tokariew** » Mon May 05, 2014 8:38 pm

in the volcanic caldera, golem go to both dreams,
dying in dreams, when the time pass it's safe for char, but dying as mouse after using this orb/portal on second lvl, means death to char too.

if golem follow another character which you control, not alchemist, you can't swap position with it, and you can't go in some square, becouse it's blocked?

making dump of character doesn't export your elemental resistance, and damage modify

Dhurke · #38 Post by **Dhurke** » Mon May 05, 2014 11:45 pm

Berserker Rage specifies increase accuracy 14 and physical power 17 on skill info, but on character sheet shows as +6 accuracy and +4 damage.

grayswandir · #39 Post by **grayswandir** » Mon May 05, 2014 11:53 pm

Are you sure it's not just the general diminishing returns for those stats?

Shibari · #40 Post by **Shibari** » Tue May 06, 2014 12:55 am

Skirmisher Slings was bugged, I completely missed that in testing, thanks.

Svendre wrote: The newer Sun Paladin does seem quite a bit stronger (not complaining) and I did not feel that critters on insane were hitting so obscenely hard. From this perspective I felt it was more playable. On the flip side, the increased # of unique/rares which you could encounter at the same time led me into several situations where status effects were overwhelmingly annoying. Even with wild infusions in some cases there was no way to prevent them from multiplying to the point where death came from being totally useless rather than getting smashed. In retrospect, I almost preferred them hitting harder to the more annoying endless stream of status effects. Being stunned, blinded, confused, etc. etc. all at once could be amusing when it results in normal creatures or a single unique killing you - but not three times as many effects at once. I don't really have a solution for this except perhaps to cap the total number of negative status effects you can have at one time and/or give characters some temporary extra resistance for the same ones repeating in a certain time frame.

This is 100% true of my experience as well, and to some degree was actually the goal--dealing with sustain damage/debuffs instead of being hit out for 600. I definitely take a very different approach to the new Insane that is much more focused on debuff management now.

There are various 1.2 changes aimed directly at this, particularly melee classes (since ranged can avoid probably 60% of debuffs just because they're ranged):

- Healing Infusion is completely redesigned to resemble Doctornull's, an instant cast small heal that cleanses 1 Wound and 1 Poison on a faster cooldown.

- Unflinching Resolve moved to tier 2 Conditioning and also cleanses Wounds now, allowing a lot of melee to get it going at high ranks earlier. Wound covers a great deal of important debuffs.

- A lot of the new item powers let you lock down single targets pretty badly. This doesn't cover debuffs but does favor sustained combat. Numbing Darkness by itself--a property that is on several egos and potentially *any* randart--reduces damage by 15%. Given the sheer volume of loot you get on Insane relative to Nightmare and below you should be able to aquire these items much more quickly.

- Stun reduces damage by less and only puts 3 talents on CD

Even with these though it does feel like I'm permanently blind/etc until I find near complete resist stuff. I'm curious what anyone else that has tried 1.2 Insane thinks?

supermini · #41 Post by **supermini** » Tue May 06, 2014 6:32 am

Shibari wrote: Even with these though it does feel like I'm permanently blind/etc until I find near complete resist stuff. I'm curious what anyone else that has tried 1.2 Insane thinks?

It's harder than a bag of...hard things. Admittedly I'm out of practice.

That said, what puts me off moving from NM to Insane is that basically to get a character off the ground you have to go around drowning rare townsfolk in last hope etc. I find that incredibly stupid and tedious, especially since my dying rate on insane is very high. I'd rather see no rares (or almost no rares) in the first 2 t1 zones you enter on all difficulties (like it is on normal) and rare townsfolk eliminated from the game entirely (and Myssil undrownable while we're at it).

StelasEldrasia · #42 Post by **StelasEldrasia** » Tue May 06, 2014 9:36 am

The new healthbars on icons make any mob (including you) invisible unless you're on Modern tileset. This includes custom sets.

On Modern 32x32 (since I prefer to have a visual range) they're so tiny as to be almost useless. Can we have a toggle for the old style?

edit: I've just noticed the trees are broken after switching tilesets back to Modern, so I guess there's a problem there. It fixed itself upon zoning.

I've had the double entry problem on both Win XP and Win 7 computers, but deleting te4-web.dll appears to have worked.

StelasEldrasia · #43 Post by **StelasEldrasia** » Tue May 06, 2014 9:37 am

double post

#44 Post by **darkgod** » Tue May 06, 2014 9:54 am

StelasEldrasia · #45 Post by **StelasEldrasia** » Tue May 06, 2014 11:02 am

StelasEldrasia wrote:The new healthbars on icons make any mob (including you) invisible unless you're on Modern tileset. This includes custom sets.
On Modern 32x32 (since I prefer to have a visual range) they're so tiny as to be almost useless. Can we have a toggle for the old style?
edit: I've just noticed the trees are broken after switching tilesets back to Modern, so I guess there's a problem there. It fixed itself upon zoning.

Still getting these.

Unified Body is now a passive but still has a stamina sustain cost and a cooldown listed. You get the odd 'Unified Body is now ready to use' message but I didn't see if anything happened to my stamina once I bought it.

edit: I don't know for the life of me what some of these new ego descriptions mean. I have a pair of gloves with '20% chance to reduce damage'. Reduce damage of what? My punches? The thing I hit? How much? For how long?

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