Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their damage

All new ideas for the upcoming releases of ToME 4.x.x should be discussed here

Moderator: Moderator

Post Reply
Message
Author
adamn
Halfling
Posts: 86
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:26 pm

Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their damage

#1 Post by adamn »

Right now, Flame reads, "Conjures up a bolt of fire, setting the target ablaze and doing X fire damage over 3 turns." This seems to imply that the damage is evenly distributed over 3 turns, instead of the bulk of the damage being upfront as it is.

Even more troublesome is the wording for Flameshock, which reads, "Any target caught in the area will take X fire damage and be stunned for Y turns." This seems to imply that the entirety of the damage is dealt upfront and is independent of the stun effect landing, when in actuality there is no upfront damage, the damage is tied to the shock, and the damage is evenly distributed over the duration. A better wording would be, "Any targets caught in the area will suffer Burning Shock, stunning them and dealing X fire damage over Y turns."

Credit goes to Mewtarthio and others in this thread: http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=39926

The Revanchist
Uruivellas
Posts: 762
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:14 am

Re: Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their da

#2 Post by The Revanchist »

I agree that your new description is superior. It conveys the actual effect much more clearly.

malboro_urchin
Archmage
Posts: 393
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:28 pm

Re: Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their da

#3 Post by malboro_urchin »

The Revanchist wrote:I agree that your new description is superior. It conveys the actual effect much more clearly.
I was so disappointed when I first used Flameshock. Why was this supposedly awesome ability with 100s of damage in the skill description doing 20 damage? I agree with this change wholeheartedly.
Mewtarthio wrote:Ever wonder why Tarelion sends you into the Abashed Expanse instead of a team of archmages lead by himself? They all figured "Eh, might as well toss that violent oaf up in there and see if he manages to kick things back into place.

Doctornull
Sher'Tul Godslayer
Posts: 2402
Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:46 pm
Location: Ambush!

Re: Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their da

#4 Post by Doctornull »

The other way to go is to have Flameshock apply regular Burning (non-stun version) if the Stun check fails, which would make the spell a lot more useful vs. Stun-immune enemies.
Check out my addons: Nullpack (classes), Null Tweaks (items & talents), and New Gems fork.

Delmuir
Uruivellas
Posts: 992
Joined: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:55 am

Re: Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their da

#5 Post by Delmuir »

I definitely agree with this.

evouga
Wyrmic
Posts: 231
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:03 am

Re: Reword Flame and Flameshock to better represent their da

#6 Post by evouga »

I agree also. I'd also suggest changing the wording from "X damage over Y turns" to "X damage per turn for Y turns."

Post Reply