Option to not stroll through dungeons

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Lii
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Option to not stroll through dungeons

#1 Post by Lii »

I would like a setting for not automatically going to the last level of low-tier dungeons. I'm not good enough to always survive it. I've been killed more than once when rocking up at the last level of the dungeon, surrounded by some dangerous type of enemy, and unable to go back to the previous level because the stairs on that level are surrounded by enemies too. I want to explore the rest of the dungeon either way for the sake of experience, so starting at the last level doesn't benefit me much.

Xandor Tik'Roth
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Re: Option to not stroll through dungeons

#2 Post by Xandor Tik'Roth »

And it was such a good idea...

Lii
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Re: Option to not stroll through dungeons

#3 Post by Lii »

Thanks! It does what I want, so problem solved.

Doctornull
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Re: Option to not stroll through dungeons

#4 Post by Doctornull »

I recommend the whole zOmnibus addon for gameplay improvements, including that one.
Check out my addons: Nullpack (classes), Null Tweaks (items & talents), and New Gems fork.

dukereg
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Re: Option to not stroll through dungeons

#5 Post by dukereg »

I maintain skipping to the bottom level should be an addon rather than the other way around.

In addition to the points Lii made initially, it detracts from the story aspect of the game. You go to a dungeon and get notes and clues roughly in order, telling a story and foreshadowing the dungeon boss. This feature means you are dumped at the bottom to face the boss without foreshadowing, and going up floors afterwards you get the story in reverse order.

Contrived example:
Note 1: Grimes found an inscription saying only "Zyypythax" whatever that means.
...
Note 3: These cultists of zyypythax are dangerous! One of them cut Grimes bad!
...
Note 5: Oh no, Grimes! I can't believe he has been possessed by the demon lord Zyypythax!
...
Battle with a boss monster called "zyypythax".

Now read the example again from bottom to top and see how much less effective it is.

I say it should be changed in vanilla TOME because the people most likely to be affected are newbies who won't have that addon because they don't know it happens yet. They haven't seen the area before and will have the story of the dungeon ruined. The other option is experienced players who have seen it before and are deliberately going in there overlevelled for loot and a little bit of xp, which you get on all the floors anyway.

That is my opinion, for what it's worth. I hope this hasn't been argued to death before, but this is the first thread I found on the topic. :)

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Re: Option to not stroll through dungeons

#6 Post by Doctornull »

dukereg wrote:I maintain skipping to the bottom level should be an addon rather than the other way around.
I suspect most features in zOmnibus would make the game better, including that one.
Check out my addons: Nullpack (classes), Null Tweaks (items & talents), and New Gems fork.

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