Which trap do you hate the most?

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Maylith · #1 Post by **Maylith** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:41 am

Continuing on from a previous topic to be found here http://www.t-o-m-e.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2631:

Let's see which trap is the most despised in ToME. Which one do you hate the most, and why? Do you have a tragic uber-story of loss or death due to a trap to tell?

I hate Scatter Items, but I haven't run into all the traps out there yet. Who knows, my opinion might get revised one of these days.....

Neil · #2 Post by **Neil** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:42 am

What does speed drain do? I've never run across that trap (literally :-)

Maylith · #3 Post by **Maylith** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:46 am

Neil wrote:What does speed drain do? I've never run across that trap (literally

Me either. I don't know; I was just referencing the trap name that Lord Dimwit mentioned, in the other thread, for something that apparently trashed his equipment rather nastily. If he or someone else can explain more fully, or tell me the name to change it to, I can adjust the poll if need be.

Maylith · #4 Post by **Maylith** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:59 am

?!?!?! Umm........ ok, I didn't delete the poll. Did someone else?

Neil · #5 Post by **Neil** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:24 am

I didn't touch it.

Lord Dimwit · #6 Post by **Lord Dimwit** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:33 am

Maylith wrote:I was just referencing the trap name that Lord Dimwit mentioned, in the other thread, for something that apparently trashed his equipment rather nastily. If he or someone else can explain more fully, or tell me the name to change it to, I can adjust the poll if need be.

The trap is called "trap of Speed Drain," and it's my vote for the worst trap in the world. I've hit it twice before, both times very deep in the dungeon, and it made my day considerably worse both times.

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		case TRAP_OF_DRAIN_SPEED:
		{
			object_type *j_ptr;
			s16b j, chance = 75;
			u32b f1, f2, f3, f4, f5, esp;

			for (j = 0; j < INVEN_TOTAL; j++)
			{
				/* don't bother the overflow slot */
				if (j == INVEN_PACK) continue;

				if (!inventory[j].k_idx) continue;

				j_ptr = &inventory[j];
				object_flags(j_ptr, &f1, &f2, &f3, &f4, &f5, &esp);

				/* is it a non-artifact speed item? */
				if ((!j_ptr->name1) && (f1 & TR1_SPEED))
				{
					if (randint(100) < chance)
					{
						j_ptr->pval = j_ptr->pval / 2;
						if (j_ptr->pval == 0)
						{
							j_ptr->pval--;
						}
						chance /= 2;
						ident = TRUE;
					}
					inven_item_optimize(j);
				}
			}
			if (!ident)
			{
				msg_print("You feel some things in your pack vibrating.");
			}
			else
			{
				combine_pack();
				reorder_pack();
				msg_print("You suddenly feel you have time for self-reflection.");

				/* Recalculate bonuses */
				p_ptr->update |= (PU_BONUS);

				/* Recalculate mana */
				p_ptr->update |= (PU_MANA);

				/* Window stuff */
				p_ptr->window |= (PW_INVEN | PW_EQUIP | PW_PLAYER);
			}
			break;
		}

What this means is that the trap selects one of your worn items that increases speed (it can increase something else as well, like the Coat of Trone), and reduces the speed increase (as well as the stat/ability increase). It then has a 75% chance of reducing that item's bonus by 1/2. The practical upshot of this is that you wander across this trap and your Boots of Speed (+9) suddenly become Boots of Speed (+4) permanently. Or your lovely randart ring that gives +5 to speed, attacks, constitution, and intelligence suddenly gives +2 to all of those.

Because of this damn thing I always lug around Rods of Disarming or some such...

Teber · #7 Post by **Teber** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:03 am

deleting the poll? it wasn't me. dunno what happened to it.

Maylith · #8 Post by **Maylith** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:14 am

Whoa. I think there may be a bulletin board bug? I went to add the poll back in... and after about 2 topics being added back in, the screen refreshed and I saw the *whole* poll, plus the one vote that I had made..... The topics that I had added back in were duplicated. And then I refreshed it again, and then the pollb was gone again....

Makkoan · #9 Post by **Makkoan** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:37 am

Same thing happened to me when I made a poll and edited my post, it disapered and then when I edited it to fix it, it showed double the options.....Hmmmm odd.

#10 Post by **Xandor Tik'Roth** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:14 pm

*Slams head on table* Not again....

I didn't touch the poll either. PM me the poll options you want and I'll see what I can do.

Drop items is really annoying, especially when you're playing a Troll Warrior that has no disarming ability.

zasvid · #11 Post by **zasvid** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:38 am

Drop Everything in the middle of some raging dragon/demon/undead pack is certain death... or after activating recall...

Biff · #12 Post by **Biff** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:29 pm

Curse armor

...fried my Tharkolleth

...but I found Isidur on same level

I'll put a vote in when the poll's fixed

fearoffours · #13 Post by **fearoffours** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:22 pm

zasvid - don't forget recall can be deactivated by reading another WoR/casting it again.

Maylith · #14 Post by **Maylith** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:29 am

Xandor wrote: I didn't touch the poll either. PM me the poll options you want and I'll see what I can do.

I PM'd the other night... but I don't know if it got through.

FWIW, here are the options I had tried to post. If someone else wants to retry, please be my guest...

- Scatter Items
- Drop All Items
- Curse Armor
- Curse Weapon
- trap of heavy damage (e.g. 8 Seeker Bolts)
- Speed Drain
- Something else... (tell us!)

A couple of other traps I considered adding to the poll (but did not) were:
- Missing Money (since it was mentioned in a post)
- Calling Out

Could it possibly be that too many items in a poll could cause it to mess up?

I'll try one more time.....

Vagabond · #15 Post by **Vagabond** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:35 am

Trap of No return is annoying.. I vote on it