I can't really figure out if this happens randomly or if there's a connection to something I'm doing but sometimes it's impossible to unlearn last 4 class talents. Today I've tried to do an arcane/aether mage run in the ID and put 4 points into flame until I get manathrust. I even removed points from flame every level and made sure that those 4 were the last points I put in. On level 7, I could only unlearn 3 class talent points. I double checked to make sure if I didn't make any mistakes, but no, I can only unlearn 3 points in total, and none of the talents I invested in have 'change the world permanently so they can't be unlearned etc.' I've kept some points in reserve (didn't spend all my class points), so maybe that's causing it?
I kept a copy of the save game if it helps.
[svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
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[svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
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- Thalore
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Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
I've noticed this too. I think this triggers at character creation. As an example, I'll use my standard starting arcane blade build:
Non-bugged method
Bugged method
Non-bugged method
- Start an arcane blade
- Place my stat points as required (12 str, 14 mag)
- Pick talents in the following order: rush, flame, flame, lightning, lightning
- Pick generics
- Save and begin playing
Bugged method
- Start an arcane blade
- Place my stat points as required (12 str, 14 mag)
- Pick in the following order (flame, remove flame, rush, flame, flame, lightning, lightning)
- Pick generics
- Save and begin playing
Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
That seems consistent with how flame got stuck on my arcane mage.
<darkgod> all this fine balancing talk is boring
<darkgod> brb buffing boulder throwers
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- Thalore
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Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
I just got this to happen outside of birth.
I've been fairly paranoid about this and usually exit out of the level up screen (answer no to save changes) if I make a mistake picking my talents. I did something similar to bugged method, step #3 around level 8 and a few levels later flame was locked in at 1/5.
The reason why I've noticed it so many times at character creation is that during creation it's not possible to exit the level up dialog without saving.
I've been fairly paranoid about this and usually exit out of the level up screen (answer no to save changes) if I make a mistake picking my talents. I did something similar to bugged method, step #3 around level 8 and a few levels later flame was locked in at 1/5.
The reason why I've noticed it so many times at character creation is that during creation it's not possible to exit the level up dialog without saving.
Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
I can unlearn only 1 generic talent level. I equipped Eden's Guile and 2 generics got stuck. SVN 5972.
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- Thalore
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Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
Bump for RC1.
I see this same behavior immediately after equipping eden's guile. Cunning/survival's heightened senses and charm mastery always turn into a "recently learned" talent.Tyren wrote:I can unlearn only 1 generic talent level. I equipped Eden's Guile and 2 generics got stuck. SVN 5972.
Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
Hmm, it should probably be tested if amulets of mastery do this as well.
<darkgod> all this fine balancing talk is boring
<darkgod> brb buffing boulder throwers
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Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
It's because setTalentTypeMastery() calls updateTalentTypeMastery() which calls unlearnTalent() and learnTalent() to recompute the bonuses from passive talents like those on the boots. Relearning those passives puts them on the top of the unlearn stack. This bug probably triggers any time a category with passives has its mastery changed in any way, including spending category points and wearing mastery affecting items.
Re: [svn] Sometimes impossible to unlearn last 4 talents
Oh! nice find! Thanks
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