[b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

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CaptainTrips
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[b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

#1 Post by CaptainTrips »

I posted a similar bug with regards to a specific item in the test release of b31, but I've been finding this all over the place in the actual release, so...

Many items with spell activations can be used without equipping them. I haven't found any pattern yet - it's not always the same egos, spells or eq slot that's causing this. I can't imagine that this is an intended feature, as it can be pretty easily abused. My current character has items that let him use Starfall, Glyph of Explosion and Corrupted Negation(!) without equipping them.

I'll continue testing to see if I can find a pattern, but so far it seems fairly random.

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Re: [b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

#2 Post by greycat »

Can you be more specific about which items? I have an acidic elm staff of the stars, and when I attempt to use it without equipping it, I get "You must wear this object to use it!"

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Re: [b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

#3 Post by CaptainTrips »

So far it's only been purple items that have done this - but not all of them. Here are the items I have so far that can be activated without wearing them (and the spells they activate):

cursed blazebringer's steel battleaxe of sacrifice (21-31.5 power, 2 apr) - life tap
insatiable dwarven-steel greatsword of plague (34.5-55.2 power, 2 apr) - epidemic
caustic dwarven-steel longsword of plague (24-33.6 power, 4 apr) - epidemic
ethereal elm staff of the stars (4-4.8 power, 2 apr, fire damage) - starfall
polar ash staff of ruination (7.5-9 power, 3 apr, lightning damage) - corrupted negation
cursed stargazer's woollen robe of explosions (0 def, 4 armor) - glyph of explosion

I've just been testing each item with an activation upon finding them, most say you have to wear it, but every once in awhile one of these comes along. Here's the character sheet in case you want to look at them directly: http://te4.org/characters/3123/tome/9a7 ... 25900d6212

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Re: [b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

#4 Post by Tom »

One thing in this area is recharging of mentioned items.
As it is now, they recharge if you do not wear them.
This is very convinient, but is it intentional?

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Re: [b31] Items able to be activated without wearing

#5 Post by lukep »

It looks like all of the ego prefixes are the more complex types. Is it linked at all to each of the affected items having half a dozen or so boosts? (eg. Blazebringers gives fire penetration, fire damage on strike, and fire damage when hit)
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#6 Post by bricks »

I can't be certain, but I'd swear I once could activate the Eelskin Armor without wearing it. Only thing I recall is that I had worn it before (and probably activated it at least once). Wish I could provide a save or a better account of what happened. :/

I don't necessarily see a pattern in the egos, since activated abilities are rather uncommon on items with otherwise crappy egos. This did seem to onset within the last few version (29-31), though.
Sorry about all the parentheses (sometimes I like to clarify things).

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#7 Post by CaptainTrips »

Just an update: I'm now in possession of several blue items that can be activated without wearing them as well, so the "only purple" pattern I described before doesn't hold. My character already three items in his fortress that can be activated for a level four Barrier without being worn - this seems highly abusable.

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#8 Post by darkgod »

send me the save please
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