No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

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ohioastro
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No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#1 Post by ohioastro »

I noticed an odd behavior in an anorithil toon. I was running through the intro dungeons and wasn't getting any escort quests (in fact, none even in old forest or the ruins; I know you don't get them in the maze or sandworm lair.) There was some unreadable blue text outside the map box. However, as soon as I disabled the jumpgate before zoning I got escorts; if I zone with one enabled I don't. It seems 100% - thought it might be an odd bug worth testing.

Also - killed subject Z in the halfling ruins, but he killed a yeek there before I got him. I got to a set of stairs and it wouldn't let me take them; no reward for going there, nothing. Is that intended?

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Re: No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#2 Post by greycat »

There are no escort quests in the Maze of the Sandworm lair.

The stairs at the bottom of the halfling ruins are only traversible by Yeeks. (And possibly only in one direction... not sure if Yeeks can go back "home" that way.)

If you manage to save the Yeek next time you get there, and talk to him, you can unlock that race. Unlocking and playing a Yeek then allows you to unlock Mindslayers.

edge2054
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Re: No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#3 Post by edge2054 »

The jumpgate code disables itself on level change for you. So rather you're changing zones with it on or off you're never loading a zone with it on.

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Re: No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#4 Post by ohioastro »

I know that there are zones where escorts never show up. The, very specific, issue is as follows:

If I am in a zone where an escort is normally possible:

If I have a jumpgate active when I exit the zone I don't get an escort quest (the jumpgate does turn off when you do this).

If I remember to turn the jumpgate off before I exit the zone I can get an escort.

I noticed this because I looked up after running through most of the zones where they usually occur and I didn't get any escorts. I then remembered to turn off the jumpgates before zoning, and I got a bunch of escort quests in a row (presumably the RNG "catching up" with the missing ones.) It ought to be reproducible if it is a coding glitch.
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Thanks for the info on the yeeks - might be nice if there was some message at the end to let you know what to do there (e.g. "it's a shame that you couldn't rescue that odd creature")

edge2054
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Re: No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#5 Post by edge2054 »

If there's a bug here I couldn't reproduce it which is to say I tested it and escorts generated without issue with jumpgate active.

It would be helpful if you watch stdout for errors when you have jumpgate active and change a level. If it kicks back a lua error then something's wrong.

Honestly though I think you're seeing correlation and assuming causation but it's just a random event. Sometimes you'll get a string of escorts in a row and if you're doing X or not doing Y you'll say oh this is giving me more escorts.

In fact though the game generates and determines where your escorts are at birth (or at least it used to and I'm assuming that hasn't been changed, it used to show in stdout but I learned doing this test that it no longer does.)

To loosely quote Darkgod from another thread. Onyxia is deep breathing more this beta so be careful.

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Re: No escort quests if jumpgate is enabled

#6 Post by yufra »

ohioastro wrote: If I have a jumpgate active when I exit the zone I don't get an escort quest (the jumpgate does turn off when you do this).
What do you mean "exit the zone"? Do you mean actually leaving the zone? Or changing levels?
If I remember to turn the jumpgate off before I exit the zone I can get an escort.

I noticed this because I looked up after running through most of the zones where they usually occur and I didn't get any escorts. I then remembered to turn off the jumpgates before zoning, and I got a bunch of escort quests in a row (presumably the RNG "catching up" with the missing ones.) It ought to be reproducible if it is a coding glitch.
The levels that will generate escorts are actually determined at birth, so there is not such thing as the RNG "catching up". The only way to prove that this is a bug is to do the following:
a) Enter a level under whatever you deem the "bug condition".
b) Immediately return to the previous level.
c) Re-enter the same level under whatever you deem "normal condition."
d) If and ONLY if you get an escort the second time is there a bug. Otherwise you are probably experiencing what edge has pointed out. :D
<DarkGod> lets say it's intended

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