ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Good day,

Hoping someone has the knowledge I need to get this game working for me. I've only played a handful of dungeons over and over and over again due to death/crashes/and saves not loading. I currently have 2 characters at level 15 a level 12 and a level 14 that won't load. If you'd like I can try to get the error reports for each of them ... If you need anything else from me please let me know. I have no idea what I'm doing here, or what exactly is relevant

PC Specs
Processor - Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K (3.20 GHz)
RAM - 64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
Edition - Windows 11 Home
OS build - 26200.6901
GPU - Nvidia RTX 4090



But Here's an example:


Lua Error: /engine/Target.lua:49: attempt to index field 'source_actor' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 __index
At /engine/Target.lua:49 init
At /engine/class.lua:79 new
At /engine/interface/GameTargeting.lua:32 init
At /mod/class/Game.lua:641 setupDisplayMode
At /mod/class/Game.lua:461 loaded
At /engine/Savefile.lua:575 delay
At /engine/Module.lua:1112 instanciate
At /engine/utils.lua:3000 showMainMenu
At /engine/init.lua:207
At [C]:-1 dofile
At /loader/init.lua:217

I tried loading another save that hasn't been loading... I found this a ways up in the logs from where the error is recorded. Hope it means something to someone that can help. I also posted the portion that gets submitted below.



Loading savefile /save/sly_the_dark_handed/
[SAVEFILE ERROR] loading object mod.class.NPC-0x24a1db60 resulting in: [string "d={}..."]:337: table index is nil
stack traceback:
[string "d={}..."]:337: in function 'deserialize'
/engine/class.lua:502: in function </engine/class.lua:501>
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
/engine/Savefile.lua:477: in function 'loadObject'
[string "d={}..."]:3: in function 'deserialize'
/engine/class.lua:502: in function </engine/class.lua:501>
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
/engine/Savefile.lua:477: in function 'loadObject'
[string "d={}..."]:3: in function 'deserialize'
/engine/class.lua:502: in function </engine/class.lua:501>
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
/engine/Savefile.lua:477: in function 'loadObject'
[string "d={}..."]:61: in function 'deserialize'
/engine/class.lua:502: in function </engine/class.lua:501>
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
/engine/Savefile.lua:477: in function 'loadReal'
/engine/Savefile.lua:567: in function 'loadGame'
/engine/Module.lua in function 'instanciate'
/engine/utils.lua in function 'showMainMenu'
/engine/init.lua:207: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'dofile'
/loader/init.lua:217: in main chunk
[GAMMA] Not setting gamma correction yet, no fullscreen shader found 1.2
[Minimalist] resource ui: air gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_air.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: air gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_air_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: stamina gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_stamina.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: stamina gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_stamina_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: mana gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_mana.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: mana gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_mana_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: equilibrium gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_nature.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: equilibrium gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_nature_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: vim gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_vim.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: vim gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_vim_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: positive gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_positive.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: positive gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_positive_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: negative gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_negative.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: negative gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_negative_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: hate gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_hate.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: hate gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_hate_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: paradox gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_paradox.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: paradox gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_paradox_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: psi gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_psi.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: psi gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_psi_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: soul gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_souls.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: soul gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_souls_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: insanity gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_insanity.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: insanity gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_insanity_dark.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: steam gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_steam.png found
[Minimalist] resource ui: steam gfx file /data/gfx/dark-ui/minimalist/resources/front_steam_dark.png found
Using cached font /data/font/DroidSansMono.ttf 49
Using cached font /data/font/DroidSansMono.ttf 49
Using cached font /data/font/DroidSansMono.ttf 49
Using cached font /data/font/DroidSansMono.ttf 49
[DISPLAY MODE] Tileset: shockbolt
[DISPLAY MODE] Size: 64x64




I'll post the error that was sent to Dark God here as well. I don't know how much to post... so I just took from the error to the bottom of the log file. (I astrixed out the port numbers... no idea if they're important. Let me know if you actually need them)

Lua Error: /data/general/objects/world-artifacts.lua:24: attempt to index field 'state' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 __index
At /data/general/objects/world-artifacts.lua:24 f
At /engine/Entity.lua:1262 loadList
At /engine/Entity.lua:1250 load
At /data/general/objects/objects.lua:22 loadIfNot
At /data/general/objects/objects.lua:85 f
At /engine/Entity.lua:1262 loadList
At /engine/Entity.lua:1250 load
At /data/general/objects/objects-maj-eyal.lua:22 loadIfNot
At /data/general/objects/objects-maj-eyal.lua:25 f
At /engine/Entity.lua:1262 loadList
At /engine/Entity.lua:1250 load
At /data/zones/rhaloren-camp/objects.lua:20 f
At /engine/Entity.lua:1262 loadList
At /engine/Zone.lua:176 loadBaseLists
At /engine/Zone.lua:803 loaded
At /engine/Savefile.lua:575 delay
At /engine/Module.lua:1112 instanciate
At /engine/utils.lua:3000 showMainMenu
At /engine/init.lua:207
At [C]:-1 dofile
At /loader/init.lua:217
[GAMMA] Setting gamma correction using SDL 1.2
FROM /mod/addons/cults/superload/engine/dialogs/ShowErrorStack.lua loading previous!
Wait finished, counted 673, 4901 ticks
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE] filtering save of allow_build to profile online
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE] filtering save of lore to profile online
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE] filtering save of achievements to profile online
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 2 (500 ms)
Server latency 187
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 30 (33 ms)
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 2 (500 ms)
[USERCHAT] channel achievement jormes mainmenu Is that how it feels to be an escort quest?! false true
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 30 (33 ms)
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 2 (500 ms)
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 30 (33 ms)
Server latency 187
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 2 (500 ms)
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 30 (33 ms)
Server latency 186
[PROFILE] push connection disrupted, trying to reconnect closed
[PROFILE] connection disrupted, trying to reconnect closed
[PlayerProfile] eventDisconnected
[PROFILE] Thread connecting to profiles.te4.org on ports **** ****
[PROFILE] Thread connected to profiles.te4.org
[PROFILE] logged in with steam! WinNowLoseLater
[PROFILE] Main thread got authed WinNowLoseLater
[PROFILE] Pull socket connected to profiles.te4.org
[ONLINE PROFILE] reconnecting to channels
[ONLINE PROFILE] reconnecting to channel mainmenu
[ONLINE PROFILE] connected to channel mainmenu
[PlayerProfile] eventConnected
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE] mounted online on /current-profile
[PROFILE] unmounted online from /current-profile
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
[PROFILE THREAD] batching CSETs
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MOVED: ignored due to fullscreen
SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESIZED: ignored due to fullscreen
[ENGINE] Setting requested FPS to 2 (500 ms)
Server latency 177
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/wobbling[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/timestop[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/gestures[]
Deleting temp shader cults_book_seens[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/blur[]
Deleting temp shader cults_book[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/line_grids[]
Deleting temp shader target_fbo[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/motionblur[]
Deleting temp shader full_fbo[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/underwater[]
Deleting temp shader main_fbo/sharpen[]
Deleting temp shader tentacles[time_factor=500,wobblingType=1]
Deleting temp shader tentacles[time_factor=2500,wobblingType=1]

Welcome to the forums WinNowLoseLater,

Do you have any mods activated? (aside from DLC like Ashes, Embers or Cults). Can you try running t-engine-debug.exe and loading your game with that?

@AstralWanderer
No I do not. I wanted to get some unlocks and get a good grasp of the game before messing with any kind of add ons or anything like that. To be fair, this game looks like I'll have years worth of entertainment just from the base games. I just have to get past these problems. I did try a new character and made it to level 8 before the game crashed.. and I had another dead save. (Sigh)

*Edit* Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm praying you guys can help me through this. I am not good when it comes to trouble shooting things like this haha.

Sorry, I had originally read your response while at work. I looked at it again just a moment ago and saw that you had asked I try it with T-engine-debug.exe.

I tried the save I had posted above and unfortunately I got another error. I'll give the other saves a shot just to see if any of them can be saved this way. (Will update this with an edit)

Lua Error: /engine/Target.lua:49: attempt to index field 'source_actor' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 __index
At /engine/Target.lua:49 init
At /engine/class.lua:79 new
At /engine/interface/GameTargeting.lua:32 init
At /mod/class/Game.lua:641 setupDisplayMode
At /mod/class/Game.lua:461 loaded
At /engine/Savefile.lua:575 delay
At /engine/Module.lua:1112 instanciate
At /engine/utils.lua:3000 showMainMenu
At /engine/init.lua:207
At [C]:-1 dofile
At /loader/init.lua:217

Edit - This save doesn't give me the option to send an error report. It just freezes the game at 100% loading. If I click around... the screen resizes and flashes a few times but then it goes back to a black screen and I get the main menu music. I wasn't able to use steam to close the game down (as I was running the t-engine-debug.exe). I had to use the task manager. It refused to close from the taskbar.


Loading savefile /save/sly_one/
Lua Error: /mod/class/Game.lua attempt to index field 'party' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 __index
At /mod/class/Game.lua:1456 getPlayer
At /engine/Savefile.lua:807 md5Check
At /engine/Savefile.lua:569 loadGame
At /engine/Module.lua:1107 instanciate
At /engine/utils.lua:3000 showMainMenu
At /engine/init.lua:207
At [C]:-1 dofile
At /loader/init.lua:217


Tried another character, this error report I have submitted via in-game reporting option.

Lua Error: /mod/class/NicerTiles.lua:54: attempt to index field 'zone' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 __index
At /mod/class/NicerTiles.lua:54 getTile
At /mod/class/NicerTiles.lua:662
At /mod/class/NicerTiles.lua:100 handle
At /mod/class/NicerTiles.lua:234 postProcessLevelTilesOnLoad
At /mod/class/Game.lua:183 runReal
At /mod/class/Game.lua:97 run
At /engine/Module.lua:1122 instanciate
At /engine/utils.lua:3000 showMainMenu
At /engine/init.lua:207
At [C]:-1 dofile
At /loader/init.lua:217

Could you include an (edited please, since this file can be huge - just the first and last 30-40 lines) copy of the te4_log.txt file (this should be in the Tales of Maj'Eyal program folder).

If you have Tales of Maj'Eyal installed in your Program Files folder, check that UAC has been disabled and that Controlled Folder Access is not enabled for this folder (it may be easier to install Tales of Maj'Eyal somewhere outside of the Program Files folder, like a separate Games folder to avoid UAC complications, but leave it for now) or the savegame folder (%USERPROFILE%\T-Engine\4.0\tome\save\).

Also check your savegame folder for any files with a .tmp extension - these are intermediate files created during a save and should normally be renamed/removed, so if any are still present it may indicate something interfering with the savegame process.

I suspect that something is causing savegame corruption given you have what seems to be a similar error occurring at different stages of the game. As a workaround, it might be worth installing file versioning software and using that to keep running backups of your savegame folder (this type of software monitors a folder and copies files to another folder when they change, while renaming previous versions with a "(backup X)" suffix so you can copy back a previous version). The software I use and would recommend would be Aphar Backup (archived webpage is Dutch, but the software runs in English) but other alternatives exist (Yadis Backup, AutoVer or the commercial File Hamster).

With one of these installed, as long as you save regularly, you should then always have the option to go back to a previous (hopefully working) savegame (you should only need to copy back the appropriate game.teag file).

*Edit - I don't know if it's worth mentioning, I was playing on the t-engine-debug.exe*
Here's the log text. I did try playing a bit last night and the game ended up crashing on me. So the last 30-40 lines look like they might be reflecting that crash? I'm including a little more than what you had asked for, it looks like there are a bunch nearly repeating lines at both ends, I'm assuming you can kind of skip over those and hopefully find something important that can help.

I'll take a look at the save folder now. - Thanks again for taking the time to try and help me with this!


This is from the top:


WebCore config: library(D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\te4-web.dll) spawn(D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\cef3spawn.exe)
Loading WebCore: loaded!
[CPU] Detected 32 CPUs
OpenAL device available: OpenAL Soft (default OpenAL Soft)
Available video driver: windows
Available video driver: dummy
NO SELFEXE: bootstrapping from CWD
Creating save thread
Loading discord rpc: library(D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\discord-rpc.dll) => loaded
===top 0
Booting T-Engine from: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\t-engine-debug.exe
SelfExe gave us app directory of: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 0
Creating particles thread 1
Creating particles thread 2
Creating particles thread 3
Creating particles thread 4
Creating particles thread 5
Creating particles thread 6
Creating particles thread 7
Creating particles thread 8
Creating particles thread 9
Creating particles thread 10
Creating particles thread 11
Creating particles thread 12
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 13
Creating particles thread 14
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 15
Creating particles thread 16
Creating particles thread 17
Creating particles thread 18
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 19
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 20
Creating particles thread 21
Creating particles thread 22
Creating particles thread 23
Creating particles thread 24
Creating particles thread 25
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 26
Creating particles thread 27
Creating particles thread 28
Creating particles thread 29
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
Creating particles thread 30
[DO RESIZE] Requested: 800x600 (0, 0); zoom 100%
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
LuaVM: LuaJIT 2.0.2 x86
[GAMMA] Getting desktop gamma of 1.000000
[DO RESIZE] Got: 800x600 (0, 0)
OpenGL max texture size: 32768
OpenGL max texture size: 32768
Upgrading black texture to size 64
Running lua loader code...
Reboot using te4 LATEST boot player false
[ENGINE LOADER] available from teae: te4-1.7.6
[ENGINE LOADER] found engines te4={[1]={[1]=1.000000 , [2]=7.000000 , [3]=6.000000 , [4]="te4" , [5]=17.000000 , ["load_teae"]="/engines/te4-1.7.6.teae" , } , } __byname={["te4-1.7.6"]=true , }
[ENGINE LOADER] looked in:
C:\Users\jack_\\T-Engine\4.0
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\\game\thirdparty
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\TalesMajEyal\\game
[ENGINE LOADER] sorted: te4 1 7 6
[ENGINE LOADER] loading engine: 1 7 6 te4
[ENGINE LOADER] using archived engine: /engines/te4-1.7.6.teae




This is from the bottom (Looks like it's just displaying the run before the crash):

[LOG] #UID0#Degenerated skeleton archer misses #fbd578#NoSaves#LAST#.
[LOG]
[ATTACK] attacking with (mainhand) Unerring Scalpel
[ATTACK] to degenerated skeleton archer dam/apr/atk/mult :: 36.615601182175 29 42 1 vs. armor/def 5 12
[ATTACK] after melee attack bonus hooks & callbacks:: 36.615601182175 29 42 1 vs. armor/def 5 12
checkHit 42 vs 12 => chance to hit 100
[ATTACK] HIT:: damrange 1.3 ==> dam/apr:: 39 29 vs. armor/hardiness 5 0.3
[ATTACK] after armor 39
[PHYS CRIT %] axe accuracy bonus 42 12 = 7.5
[PHYS CRIT %] 18.491637381016
[ATTACK] after crit 62.167160044703
[ATTACK] after mult 62.167160044703
[LOG] #{bold}##UID0##fbd578#NoSaves#LAST# performs a melee critical strike against Degenerated skeleton archer!#{normal}#
[ATTACK] attacking with (offhand) iron dagger
[ATTACK] to degenerated skeleton archer dam/apr/atk/mult :: 33.197758256992 9 42 0.55901099857101 vs. armor/def 5 12
[ATTACK] after melee attack bonus hooks & callbacks:: 33.197758256992 9 42 0.55901099857101 vs. armor/def 5 12
checkHit 42 vs 12 => chance to hit 100
[ATTACK] HIT:: damrange 1.3 ==> dam/apr:: 42 9 vs. armor/hardiness 5 0.3
[ATTACK] after armor 42
[PHYS CRIT %] axe accuracy bonus 42 12 = 7.5
[PHYS CRIT %] 22.491637381016
[ATTACK] after crit 42
[ATTACK] after mult 23.478461939983
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 20 to 11 20
[LOG] #UID0##fbd578#NoSaves#LAST# hits Degenerated skeleton archer for #{bold}##WHITE#68 physical#{normal}##LAST# damage.
[LOG] #{bold}##UID0##fbd578#NoSaves#LAST# killed Degenerated skeleton archer!#{normal}#
[LOG]
[MOUSE] pre starting drag'n'drop
[LOG] NoSaves activates #{bold}##ORANGE#Stealth#LAST#.#{normal}#
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 20 to 12 19
[LOG] You pickup 0.70 gold pieces.
[LOG]
[LOG] Resting starts...
[LOG] Rested for 0 turns (stop reason: all resources and life at maximum).
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 12 19 to 11 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 18 to 10 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 10 18 to 9 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 9 19 to 10 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 10 18 to 11 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 18 to 12 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 12 18 to 13 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 13 18 to 14 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 14 19 to 14 20
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 14 20 to 15 21
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 15 21 to 14 20
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 14 20 to 13 21
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 13 21 to 12 20
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 12 20 to 11 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 19 to 10 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 10 18 to 9 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 9 19 to 8 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 8 18 to 9 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 9 19 to 10 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 10 18 to 11 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 11 18 to 12 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 12 18 to 13 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 13 18 to 14 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 14 19 to 15 18
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 15 18 to 16 19
[LOG] Ran for 9 turns (stop reason: at door).
[LOG]
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 16 19 to 16 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 16 19 to 17 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 17 19 to 18 19
[LOG] Resting starts...
[LOG] Rested for 0 turns (stop reason: all resources and life at maximum).
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 18 19 to 19 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 19 19 to 20 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 19 to 20 20
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 20 to 20 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 19 to 21 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 21 19 to 22 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 22 19 to 21 19
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 21 19 to 20 20
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 20 to 20 21
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 21 to 20 22
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 22 to 20 23
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 23 to 20 24
[Actor:move] 3839 NoSaves move from 20 24 to 20 25

Checked the different saves, 2 of the 9 had a .tmp extension. The rest were .teal or .teaz or a combination of both.

Thanks for the info - the one item of significance I noted was that you are running the Steam version so UAC is unlikely to be an issue. The presence of the .tmp files in your saved games folder could be more significant though. Are you using cloud saves or any utility that provides similar functionality? Try disabling them to see if that helps.

Another option is to install Process Monitor and use its filters to view any access to your TOME saved games folder (only t-engine.exe should be accessing this normally) - any other process doing so should be investigated.

Well... unfortunately for me.. as things stand this game is currently nearly unplayable for me. As irritating as doing the first few levels is over and over without losing my characters to death... I'd probably pop a blood vessel if this was happening at the end of the game haha.
Giving it a shot on my Steam deck... maybe... things won't mess up over there? I appear to be the odd man out with the save issues...

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Oh! I hadn't seen your response just above before posting this. I'll try that out as well and see if it makes a difference. I didn't mess with any settings... so if cloud saves or on by default i'll try having them turned off.

Doesn't look like steam even offers the option for cloud saves. Went to turn it off and it's just not available as an option.

Question... if I bought the game on steam, would I be able to download the client through Te4? And just play it off steam? Like maybe steam was the issue here... or would I need to purchase the game and all the DLC over again to try that? Maybe steam is the issue here? I just find it hard to believe I'm the only person playing this game with these issues..

WinNowLoseLater wrote: ↑Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:17 pm Well... unfortunately for me.. as things stand this game is currently nearly unplayable for me. As irritating as doing the first few levels is over and over without losing my characters to death...

I would just mention again the use of file versioning as a workaround - it would allow you to at least to go back to a previous working savegame.

Another thing to try though is turning off background saves (press Esc in-game to bring up the Game Menu, then Game Options/Misc/Background Saves/Disable).

WinNowLoseLater wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 2:04 pm Question... if I bought the game on steam, would I be able to download the client through Te4? And just play it off steam?...

Actually I was going to suggest downloading the free version, installing that separately and seeing if you get the same problem.

WinNowLoseLater wrote: ↑Sat Nov 01, 2025 2:04 pmI just find it hard to believe I'm the only person playing this game with these issues..

It's probable that there is something specific about your setup (hardware/software) contributing to these issues - hence the recommendation about using Process Monitor above. If you don't want to go down that road, then the best alternative I can suggest is disconnecting your PC from the Internet (TOME will still work, you just won't have the online features), disabling all security software and anything else running in the background you don't absolutely need (use Task Manager to check what you have running) and then try TOME again to see if that helps.

Finally, above you mentioned finding a couple of .tmp files in your saved games folder - could you specify which filenames these had? Also could you check your TOME Program Files folder for a debug.log file and post the last 20 or so lines from that?

Um, I might have messed something up.. But I don't seem to have a TOME Program Files folder. I was running out of space on my C drive and moved a few steam games over to D drive and that's where I installed TOME, on the D drive. The Program Files Folder on the D drive only has 3 folders all pertaining to Diablo 4 (Battle.net, D4, and D4 public test). If the fix is as simple as removing TOME from my PC and installing it on Drive C... I'm going to punch myself in face (very softly). Could this be an issue and a fix?

For the files that had a .tmp

The save folder itself had one - world.teaw.tmp

Then sly_the_dark_hand had one - game.teag.tmp

lothar had one (He's a dead character though... so?) - game.teag.tmp

I have a save still for beast_master as well... another dead character but not tmp files. The other dead character's saves are gone... Not sure if I deleted them or if the game automatically did... I thought the game did it.. but I could have? Been trying a lot of random stuff to get things working.