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Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:20 am
by theshim
Hi all! I decided to come back to ToME after a while - probably been a year or two since last I played. I've been experiencing a problem though - the game persistently hangs for long periods of time, nearly randomly. It seems to be triggered by all kinds of things - hovering over an enemy, hovering over a talent, clicking to move to a location, the works. The hangs last a solid 5-10 seconds each time, rendering the game virtually unplayable (not that that stopped me from getting a character all the way into Dreadfell

). I've tried running the game with all connectivity turned off, since the effect feels similar to when lagging badly in a game - when it locks up for several seconds, then the animations play super fast when it loads back in - but that had no effect.
My best guess is that I have something left from an old install that's causing the game to hang badly - I did download the game again from the site to start over and that hasn't stopped it. If this is the case, I have no idea where the old files that are causing all the slowdown are. When the game runs, it runs fine, but the constant locking up makes it a very poor experience, and that makes me sad. Any help would be appreciated!
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:26 am
by HousePet
Start/load a game.
Make it lag out.
Post the log file.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:43 am
by theshim
It lagged for several seconds right before I exited, I don't believe I took any other actions.
Log is 467 kb so I'm putting it on Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/S3ZU5pCy
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:41 pm
by shkkk
I have the same problem aswell playing possessor. I saw also a lot of Lua errors with summoners.
Atm the game is barely playable and you must save every 150 turns or so
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:52 am
by HousePet
Possessor has some large memory leak issues. I'm not aware of any issues with summoners.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:02 am
by theshim
I tried switching to the Steam client to see if it helped, and it felt like it was less horribly laggy for a short while but then took back off.
https://pastebin.com/7fGJqDt8 is another log, which I find interesting in the last few lines. After killing the yellow jelly enemy, I clicked to move a tile and the game locked up for several seconds before moving and picking up the pouch of steel shots of erosion (lines 6448-6452) - but there's nothing in the log there.
I could really use some help, the game's practically unplayable as-is and I'd really like to dive back into ToME.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:06 am
by HousePet
Try monitoring ram and disk usage while playing.
Another possibility, but I haven't heard of this one for a while, is your antivirus freezing things to scan something.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:49 am
by theshim
HousePet wrote:Try monitoring ram and disk usage while playing.
Another possibility, but I haven't heard of this one for a while, is your antivirus freezing things to scan something.
Ram and disk usage are steady while playing.
If it's my antivirus, it's not showing up, and I'm still running the same one that I have been since I was last playing the game with no issues. Do you know how I would go about detecting it if it is in fact the antivirus freezing it all up? No other game or program is experiencing this either, it's just ToME

Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:34 am
by HousePet
You should be able to tell the antivirus to turn off for a while. If you don't get any freezes with it off, then you know its the antivirus.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:33 pm
by theshim
HousePet wrote:You should be able to tell the antivirus to turn off for a while. If you don't get any freezes with it off, then you know its the antivirus.
Yeah, that had no effect either

Really just bewildered on this one.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:16 am
by theshim
So I basically quit playing after the last post I made in this topic, over a year ago, since the constant lockups rendered the game insanely frustrating to play.
Well, I rebuilt my computer with newer, shinier hardware, and I decided to give the game a whirl again, and...nope. Still constantly locking up, sometimes every 15 seconds, sometimes every 3, sometimes for maybe a second, sometimes for upwards of 5. Happens in menus, happens in the talent screen, happens in gameplay. I'm stuck and quite frustrated and I have no clue what could even be causing it. If I have time I'll try to record a short video demonstrating the lockups, just so people can see what I mean.
Would really appreciate any help. I still love this game.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:14 pm
by HousePet
Well if it is still happening on different hardware, then perhaps it is something to do with the other software.
Try running the computer in safe mode and disable as many other programs as you can. See if that stops the freezes.
Something else to check is if the freeze is just ToME4 or the whole computer. To test that, you'll need to run it in a window so that you can quickly start playing around with something else when it freezes.
Re: Enormous, persistent game freezes
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:36 pm
by Moasseman
Check whether ToME is using internal or external gpu