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[1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:23 pm
by Ocd595
Hi there!

So I'd been testing through most of the 1.6 beta, but when the full release (and accompanying expansion updates) got pushed, a new issue cropped up. Suddenly, the tinker cave isn't actually appearing on the map when that option is selected from the escort. Initially encountered the issue using only official dlc/addons, but used the select-your-escort addon to reproduce the problem. The cave appears properly when starting a tinker character, but it no longer seems to appear with any other characters who take the escort.

On the off chance it's a contributing factor, the initial bug observed and all (maybe? at least nearly all) the of the reproductions I did involved the tinker escort being encountered in the first dungeon, before the character had explored the world map for the first time.

Thanks so much for all your time and hard work! I hope this is helpful.

As a question/possible other bug-- is there supposed to be rhyme or reason to when/where the APE drops in this build? during the beta I had characters who got the APE but no tinker escorts and others who unlocked the tinker tree but had no APE to make use of it. Cant tell if that issue carried to the full release with the above issue being what it is, but thought it was worth mentioning.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:37 pm
by Relic
I got a tinker escort with 1.6+DLC installed. I found the tinker cave but it wasn't in the spot that it used to be. Not sure if it changes places like other landmarks.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:48 pm
by Pseudoku
1.6 changes the location of the cave to a random location.

I was able to reproduce the issue with only the official dlcs enabled too (though with the developer mode enabled to speed up testing).
I was also able to find the tinker cave once while using my select-your-escorts addon so I don't think it's directly related, but it guarantees you'll find the escort quickly.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:14 am
by Pseudoku
I just tested going to the world map first before encountering the tinker escort:
1. Starting as a Cornac Berserker (so starting in Trollmire)
2. With the select your escort addon enabled so the Tinker appears first

3a. Going back into Trollmire and finding the escort: 0/5 times the cave appeared
3b. Going outside to Kor'Pul or Old Forest to find the first escort: 0/3 times the cave appeared

Also tried having the tinker be the 2nd escort once, didn't appear.

So I don't think it matters whether you go out to the world map.

Also tried starting as a Temporal warden, didn't appear.

I'm thinking it may be entirely random whether it works... maybe based on where it tried to put the cave.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:06 pm
by GlassGo
Could it be that Tinker cave spawned on Far East?

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:32 pm
by Pseudoku
I was checking the for the location using the te4 log. It didn't appear.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:21 am
by Pseudoku
Ok I think I figured it out...

It is trying to find a free random adjacent spot based on the x,y coordinates that your player was at INSIDE the zone before you leave to the world map. In many maps, is at the edge of the map if you take the exit, so that ends up being 0,y or x,0... so it tries to find a spot near the edge of the world map, which has no free spots. [when I was testing, I was mostly using trollmire, which has the exit at the left side of the map]

If you use the rod of recall, your x,y won't be near the edges, but may still be technically inside terrain (mountains, forest, water, etc), which is why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

To workaround this bug, you could use the rod of recall near the top left of the map you're in - 2,4 and 3,4 are free tiles. In other words, stand 3 or 4 tiles away from the left of the map and 5 tiles from the top of the map.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:08 am
by GlassGo
:mrgreen: loooool

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:13 pm
by Snarvid
Am also getting this bug.

Re: [1.6] Tinker Cave not Appearing

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:17 am
by kurtgr
Happened to me too.