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[1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:37 pm
by jenx
which sort of doesn't make any sense...

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:50 pm
by Radon26
not necessarily?
there is sleepwalking is a thing, and yeek are supposedly masters of the mind, AND they are never alone.

in fact, if the body is put to sleep, that's less factors distracting the mind, perhaps allowing it to be more focused.

although, yeah, probably does count as a bug. doubt anyone considered the above.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:09 pm
by Mordy
jenx wrote:which sort of doesn't make any sense...
Makes as much sense as activating a wild infusion.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:24 pm
by Number43
Annoyingly you can cure sleep with a wild infusion, but not a water salve, as it tells you that you can't use items while sleeping, as you are technically using the salve rather than the medical injector inscription.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:30 pm
by 64legos
Actually, sleep was designed to allow instant-use talents to be usable while asleep.

This was mainly put in to allow wild infusions to cure sleep.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:42 pm
by Radon26
64legos wrote:Actually, sleep was designed to allow instant-use talents to be usable while asleep.
wait... you mean i can use...
-deadly strikes (instant)
-willfull combat (instant)
-tumble (instant)
-hide in plain sight (instant)

and so many others, can be used while asleep?
someone is having very disturbed dreams to thrash like that...
except for the last one. the last one is a just a bit weird.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:19 pm
by Number43
Gunslingers can use awesome toss while asleep.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:42 am
by jenx
Ok, so I think what can be done while asleep needs to be revised...

over to you DarkGod :-D

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:19 pm
by Radon26
maybe make it also disable all talents that use "weapon" speed.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:52 pm
by Mordy
Radon26 wrote:maybe make it also disable all talents that use "weapon" speed.
But the reason Awesome Toss works while asleep is because it doesn't use "weapon speed" but "instant speed" :D

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:13 pm
by Radon26
...right... i was thinking each active has a certain speed, depending on its type... kind of forgot instant replaces those...
before that i was thinking "if it uses a weapon", but unarmed doesn't have those...
and disarming would be a bit weired too.

Re: [1.4.9] Dominant Will can be used while asleep

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:53 pm
by Number43
Thing is though, you can use most instant talents, but not if they come from activating an item. Using an item is specifically excluded, even if it's instant, so you can't cure sleep with a water salve.