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[embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:56 pm
by Kror
The tooltip from algrid rage indicates that it scales with willpower, yet strength increases the chance to freeze enemies. Increasing willpower does not chance any number in the description at all (whatever "the bonus will increase" might mean).

Re: [embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:28 am
by nsrr
Indeed, the code does not lie:
...
getPower = function(self, t) return self:combatStatScale("str", 30, 50) end,
tactical = { BUFF = 2 },
action = function(self, t)
self:setEffect(self.EFF_ALGID_RAGE, 5, {power=t.getPower(self, t)})
return true
end,
...
I would say the description is incorrect, but I think it would make more sense if it actually did scale on Willpower, given their other racials and the whole theme of mind-control. The second racial scales only on talent level, the third scales on Con, and the fourth also scales on Con (although the apply strength could be affected by a number stats, and the chance for it to crit is based on your mind crit). Seems like there should be a little more Willpower in play.

Re: [embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:46 am
by Ravenholme
nsrr wrote:Indeed, the code does not lie:
...
getPower = function(self, t) return self:combatStatScale("str", 30, 50) end,
tactical = { BUFF = 2 },
action = function(self, t)
self:setEffect(self.EFF_ALGID_RAGE, 5, {power=t.getPower(self, t)})
return true
end,
...
I would say the description is incorrect, but I think it would make more sense if it actually did scale on Willpower, given their other racials and the whole theme of mind-control. The second racial scales only on talent level, the third scales on Con, and the fourth also scales on Con (although the apply strength could be affected by a number stats, and the chance for it to crit is based on your mind crit). Seems like there should be a little more Willpower in play.
I don't think that makes too much sense, despite them being mind-controlled Yetis, Algid Rage definitely seems like an innate trait of the Yeti and given that they're not renowned for their willpower (quite the opposite), scaling it with Strength feels right to me. The last one is definitely a Will scaling one though, as it is directly related to the mind-controlled state of the Yeti.

Re: [embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:21 am
by nsrr
Ravenholme wrote:
I don't think that makes too much sense, despite them being mind-controlled Yetis, Algid Rage definitely seems like an innate trait of the Yeti and given that they're not renowned for their willpower (quite the opposite), scaling it with Strength feels right to me. The last one is definitely a Will scaling one though, as it is directly related to the mind-controlled state of the Yeti.
The second and third racial are definitely innate abilities of the Yeti's body. Being "attuned to the cold climates" certainly seems like an innate Yeti trait, but I don't see how that lets you encase things in ice without a little mindpower (or magic, but that goes against the psionic mind-control theme) being involved. Maybe if it were only from physical attacks or melee damage then Strength would make sense, but it can proc on any damage.

Re: [embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:44 am
by ibanix
Regardless of theme, the description of Algrid Rage is wrong:

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The bonus will increase with your Willpower
Either the description should change to "with you Strength", or the code should change to scale by Willpower.

Re: [embers] Yeti: Algid Rage scales with strength

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:12 pm
by Dopaminka
It's been 16 months since EoR release and Yeti racial still scales with Strength, while the tooltip states it should scale with Willpower.
Seems like a big thing to just completely ignore and never fix :/