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Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:46 pm
by San0ix
So as it turns out, Gestures of Pain and Psiblades don't work together. At this point I am no longer surprised at stuff like this because awesome syngery just kinda seems to be removed from the game without a real reason :(
Here's why I'm slightly upset at this:

Gestures of Pain's describtion:
Use a gesture of pain in place of a normal attack to assault the minds of your enemies, inflicting between 43, 59, 70, 80, 89 and 86, 117, 141, 161, 179 mind damage. If the attack succeeds, there is a 12%, 15%, 18%, 20%, 22% chance to stun your opponent for 3 turns.
This strike replaces your melee physical and checks your Mindpower against your opponent's Mental Save, and is thus not affected by your Accuracy or the enemy's Defense. It also does not trigger any physical on-hit effects. However, the base damage and the critical chance of any Mindstars equipped are added in when this attack is performed.
This talent requires two free or mindstar-equipped hands and has a 25% chance to inflict cross tier effects which can be critical hits. The damage will increase with your Mindpower. Mindstars bonuses from damage and physical criticals: (+0 damage, +0 critical chance)

Psiblades' describtion
Channel your mental power through your wielded mindstars, generating psionic blades sprouting from the mindstars.
Mindstar psiblades have their damage modifiers (how much damage they gain from stats) multiplied by 1.45, 1.60, 1.72, 1.81, 1.90, their armour penetration by 1.23, 1.47, 1.66, 1.81, 1.95 and mindpower, willpower and cunning by 1.45, 1.60, 1.72, 1.81, 1.90.
Also increases Physical Power by 13, 26, 39, 52, 65 and increases weapon damage by 25%, 36%, 44%, 50%, 57% when using mindstars.

Sooooo, Gestures of Pain says "It also does not trigger any physical on-hit effects. However, the base damage and the critical chance of any Mindstars equipped are added in when this attack is performed", which means that the base damage of you mindstars (which I always thought to be the damage on your character sheet) is being added to Gestures of Pain's damage, which is absolutely wrong.
According to someone on the forums, Psiblades modifies you physical attacks, which are ignored by Gestures of Pain (which sucks but makes sense). However, there is no real indication of this happening; especially since the text clearly says that base damage is added on top of Gestures of Pain's damage.

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:49 pm
by Micbran
Eh. It's logical. How am I supposed to make mean gestures at enemies when my hands have badass lightsaberish things in them?

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:51 pm
by San0ix
Micbran wrote:Eh. It's logical. How am I supposed to make mean gestures at enemies when my hands have badass lightsaberish things in them?
Idk, how do you make mean gestures with mindstars in your hand? Why are better mindstars better than others? Why can you make better gestures with mindstars rather than just your hands?

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:42 pm
by HousePet
Psiblades doesn't alter the base damage of the mindstars, nor does it say it does.

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:46 am
by Micbran
San0ix wrote:
Micbran wrote:Eh. It's logical. How am I supposed to make mean gestures at enemies when my hands have badass lightsaberish things in them?
Idk, how do you make mean gestures with mindstars in your hand? Why are better mindstars better than others? Why can you make better gestures with mindstars rather than just your hands?
Sign language without the use of intricate finger motions and then you project it with your mind!

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:56 pm
by San0ix
HousePet wrote:Psiblades doesn't alter the base damage of the mindstars, nor does it say it does.
What IS base damage then, if it's not the damage that's based off of your stats?

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:02 pm
by Micbran
The numbers you see, or the precents if you use advanced, I'd imagine.

Re: Bad Wording 2.0 - Gestures of Pain + Psiblades

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:30 am
by HousePet
That impossible to understand value on each weapon that nobody knows how it converts into a damage value.