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Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:43 pm
by synek
IDK if it is desired but at least it should be writen somwhere.

Or the poison have some sort of check to apply?

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:25 pm
by Radon26
i donno "whats your problem" so letss get it all.
1) you need to "unlock" it first, by siding with assassyn lord
1b) the one who unlock it, dos not get it (or it would give poisons to other classes?)

2) new character will have to spend a category point, to activate the tallent tree.
2b) first poison you can learn at lvl 10. you cant apply a category point, untill you are lvl 10. even if you are cornac

3) every time you put a point into poisons, you get a sustain ability, you need to activate the sustain.
3b) application of poison is not guaranteed, at the beginig you have 20-30% chance, per atack, to apply poison.
3c) you can have only 2 of them, active at any give time.

4) some enemies are immune to poisons, completely.

so, at which point is your problem?

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:32 pm
by synek
Ok sory for not being specific...

I have lvl 25 skirmisher with unlocked poison and 5 points in Vile poisons 1 Venomous strikes 1 Empower poisons and 5 toxic death, so there should be 50% chance to poison monster. However i did not get poison to apply (or very rarely - 1 out of 40 hits) since old forest - so it DOES NOT WORK in minotaur labyrint, desert hole (or what is that), daikara and Dreadfell. Using called shots, huricane and sling.

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:48 pm
by Radon26
perhaps its problem with the called shots?
poisons work with basic atacks. so, if the skill, is not considered "basi atack" then it would not work.
this class is still relatively new. what version are you uing? 1.2.2? or 1.2.3?

I am currently playing on 1.2.2, and actually, thy don't trigger too often, but every now and then i see the enemy taking nature amage.

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:37 pm
by synek
I play 1.2.3 but to be honest it will be ok if they work with basic attacks, yet all rogue attacks (even not basic ones) works well with poisons. And if you check they do less than 50% even with basic atacks (8/33)... it is like - you may pick poisons but they will not work!

So I sugest to remove them from the skirmisher or make it clear that they will not work or fix it somehow.

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:51 pm
by 0player
It's unlocked even for archer, it definitely should apply on shots.
Indeed, in class/interface/Archery.lua, vile_posions are checked when a projectile hits, on proc.
Are you sure you are, in fact, sustaining talents Vile Poisons grants you? It doesn't work by itself.

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:57 pm
by Radon26
i already sugested that in my fisrt post, so he would say if thats it.
Radon26 wrote:3) every time you put a point into poisons, you get a sustain ability, you need to activate the sustain.
unless he is an idiot and did not read/check.
Oplayer, did you not read aswel? or just "in case" he is, mention it agine?

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:09 am
by 0player
From his explanation, it seemed to me that he understood the ability as passive, so I thought it was worth double checking, especially since I have no other ideas.

Re: Poisons does not work for skirmisher?

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:15 am
by synek
:D yes I know it is has to be activated. Btw. does poisons check some for some saves (for example plyers accuracy vs physical or something)? That could be last easy explanation.

From my point of view it is bug so I reported it.