ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

EDIT: Bug/complaint withdrawn. Turns out I'm a noob and had a belt of unlife equipped, not realizing that being undead stopped the BoL res. Carry on!

The other day I had my lvl 50 Marauder get instakilled (via a Haymaker finisher from brawler, but coding for all the instakills seems similar), and when the death msg popped up I had no option for using my BoL (which I'm 100% sure he had, even checked the game file afterwards). I was Unstoppable at the time, which may have had something to do with the bug.

Now, the rejecting BoL is clearly a bug, but I'd like to bring up a related concern with how Instakill effects vs players work. When I was hit by it, I had both Unstoppable going for 8 more turns, and a Heroism of significant negative life for even more. While I can accept this, it seems pretty counter-intuitive and of questionable design. I would have assumed that either Unstoppable would prevent it, or that my negative life survival would count toward my life total for purposes of calculating instadeath vulnerability (which it doesn't). I'd recommend making either or both of those things true.

PS: For the record, since not getting my BoL is clearly shenanigans, I then resurrected him and just manually removed his BoL. I accept a death from that, but not insta-permadeath! His quest continues!

My understanding was negative life isn't SUPPOSED to protect form insta-death, which is why Steak Sauce is the ultimate answer to negative life and most other forms of death protection.. (Wyrmics are awesome that way.)

I'm surprised that unstoppable, given it's not about negative life, but about 'don't die' doesn't stop it, however.

Were you wearing a belt of unlife? Since wearing that prevents resurrecting with blood of life.

Holy shit, supermini, I was not aware of that. Was in underwater caves when it happened, belt was less valuable water-breathing slot. Didn't even think about the undead thing. I WITHDRAW MY COMPLAINT! Ty, now I can let the dude rest in peace and carry on.

For Crim, I still find it shenanigans that Unstoppable doesn't work with it as you said, seems counter-intuitive. As for negative life, I can see how it's not perhaps supposed to protect against it... but from the perspective of a player it still seems like you should be able to have something that helps mitigate. I have no real problems with that though, just caught me off guard as it's never happened before.