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Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:12 pm
by Suslik
1) Create a new temporal warden
2) Unlearn all paradox-using talents
3) Go to world map
4) Enter zigur
5) The npc is hostile, cannot buy mindstar mastery. Tears-tears.

And why did i have to lvlup this shaloren to lvl17 to discover that? ._.

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:09 pm
by Moander
The zigur factions is by default hostile towards the following factions:
  • Enemy
  • Undead
  • Angolwen
  • Keepers of Reality
  • Rhalore
They also seems to have a mild dislike towards The way (Yeeks).

By the way, aren't the Keepers of Reality a "secret" faction? Does the Zigur even know who they are?

Perhaps Zigur should be neutral towards the Keepers?

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:46 pm
by Zeyphor
could you still see a paradox bar?
did you still have any shalore racials? I think those count as spells
did you have a staff equipped, giving you Command Staff, which is a spell? he ziguranth doesnt like that

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:17 pm
by Suslik
> could you still see a paradox bar?
no

> did you still have any shalore racials? I think those count as spells
i did but that does not restrict you normally from going AM(even though all those talents will become useless). just to ensure i have created a shaloren shadowblade(with shaloren racials but without mana bar) and zigur reacted to me just fine

> did you have a staff equipped, giving you Command Staff, which is a spell? he ziguranth doesnt like that
no

looks like fraction is indeed the cause. come on, how do ziguranth guys even know about some secret fraction and why do we have no means working this around?

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:40 pm
by HousePet
Spells and resource bars don't change your faction standing with Zigur, just with the patrols.

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:40 am
by Doctornull
HousePet wrote:Spells and resource bars don't change your faction standing with Zigur, just with the patrols.
This.

Also note that putting on a Rune won't make Zigur proper hostile, but it will make Zigur patrols hostile.

Zigur are a bunch of hypocrites.

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:37 pm
by Suslik
Bump, still not fixed in 1.2.0b11.

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:25 am
by phalaris
I to would like to play a mindstar temporal warden. I was sad to have my character blasted to bits when he tried to buy mindstar mastery. Don't see what it would hurt to make this change.

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:44 pm
by Suslik

Re: Temporal warden, zigur is hostile when entered

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:29 am
by Orion
I just tried this, and even with 0 points in chronomancy talents I still have a paradox bar and Zigur is invisible.