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[1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

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[1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:39 am
by jenx
This is totally bizarre.

I have never tried controlling my thought-form before, so I thought I'd give it a go.

Result? It killed me. My character has lots of autocasts, and my suspicion is that somehow my character autocast onto itself rather than on a target somewhere.

Here is the log:

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LOG]	Aletis uses Psychic Lobotomy.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	2.3086072957468
[LOG]	
[TARGET] Passing target	Aletis	from	thought-forged warrior	to	black bear
Loading tile	object/sandworm_tooth.png
[LOG]	Resting starts...
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.50828208885104
[LOG]	Aletis uses Psychic Lobotomy.
[LOG]	Aletis uses Mind Sear.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	2.0777465661721
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.9
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.07395
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.45745387996593
[LOG]	Aletis uses Psychic Lobotomy.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.8699719095549
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.8
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.1479
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.41170849196934
[LOG]	Aletis uses Psychic Lobotomy.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
checkHit	22.226361458952	29.55
=> chance to hit	32
[LOG]	Aletis higher mental functions have been imparied.
[PROJECTOR] starting dam	53.830321855571
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam	53.830321855571
[PROJECTOR] res	3	0.97	 on dam	53.830321855571
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam	52.215412199903
[PROJECTOR] res	0	1	 on dam	52.215412199903
[PROJECTOR] after self-resists dam	52.215412199903
[PROJECTOR] after flat damage armor	52.215412199903
[PROJECTOR] final dam	52.215412199903
[LOG]	Aletis's mind suffers #YELLOW#13 psi#LAST# damage from the attack.
[LOG]	#UID:1473:0#Aletis hits Aletis for #YELLOW#14 mind#LAST# damage.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.6829747185994
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	2.7
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.22185
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.36717136199409
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.5146772467395
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	3.6
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.2958
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33058018738663
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.3632095220655
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	4.5
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.36975
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33058018738663
[LOG]	Aletis's regains its senses.
[LOG]	Aletis uses Mind Sear.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
checkHit	29.55	22.226361458952
=> chance to hit	69
[LOG]	Aletis resists the mind attack!
[PROJECTOR] starting dam	73.5854261542
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam	73.5854261542
[PROJECTOR] res	3	0.97	 on dam	73.5854261542
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam	71.377863369574
[PROJECTOR] res	0	1	 on dam	71.377863369574
[PROJECTOR] after self-resists dam	71.377863369574
[PROJECTOR] after flat damage armor	71.377863369574
[PROJECTOR] final dam	71.377863369574
[LOG]	Aletis's mind suffers #YELLOW#17 psi#LAST# damage from the attack.
[LOG]	#UID:1473:0#Aletis hits Aletis for #YELLOW#19 mind#LAST# damage.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.226888569859
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	5.4
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.4437
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	1.1041997128731
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	6.3
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.51765
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[LOG]	Aletis uses Mind Sear.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
checkHit	29.55	22.226361458952
=> chance to hit	69
[PROJECTOR] starting dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] res	3	0.97	 on dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] res	0	1	 on dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after self-resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after flat damage armor	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] final dam	142.75572673915
[LOG]	Aletis's mind suffers #YELLOW#35 psi#LAST# damage from the attack.
[LOG]	#UID:1473:0#Aletis hits Aletis for #YELLOW#37 mind#LAST# damage.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.99377974158576
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	7.2
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.5916
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[LOG]	The psychic field around Aletis crumbles.
[LOG]	#00ff00##UID:313:0#Talent Death Dance is ready to use.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.89440176742718
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	8.1
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.66555
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.80496159068447
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	9
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.7395
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[LOG]	Aletis uses Mind Sear.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
checkHit	29.55	22.226361458952
=> chance to hit	69
[PROJECTOR] starting dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] res	3	0.97	 on dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] res	0	1	 on dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after self-resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after flat damage armor	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] final dam	142.75572673915
[LOG]	Aletis's mind suffers #YELLOW#7 psi#LAST# damage from the attack.
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.72446543161602
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	9.9
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.81345
[LOG]	#UID:1473:0#Aletis hits Aletis for #YELLOW#136 mind#LAST# damage.
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.65201888845442
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	10.8
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.8874
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.33361099492142
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.62424005621073
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	11.7
[HEALING]	1473	Aletis	for	0.96135
[LOG]	Aletis uses Mind Sear.
[MIND CRIT %]	5.1
checkHit	29.55	22.226361458952
=> chance to hit	69
[PROJECTOR] starting dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] res	3	0.97	 on dam	147.1708523084
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] res	0	1	 on dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after self-resists dam	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] after flat damage armor	142.75572673915
[PROJECTOR] final dam	142.75572673915
[LOG]	Aletis's mind suffers #YELLOW#6 psi#LAST# damage from the attack.
[LOG]	#UID:1473:0#Aletis hits Aletis for #YELLOW#138 mind#LAST# damage.
[LOG]	#{bold}##UID:1473:0#Aletis killed Aletis!#{normal}#
[HEALING]	19926	thought-forged warrior	for	0.62424005621073
I hope this can be fixed.

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:32 pm
by edge2054
More correctly it sounds like you killed yourself while possessing a thought form. Can anyone verify if controlling a golem with a bunch of auto-casts enabled does the same thing?

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:06 pm
by Hachem_Muche
I just checked with an alchemist. I set channel staff and throw bomb to auto use when enemies are visible and when I switched control to the golem, my character just kept hitting himself with bombs and staff blasts.

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:11 pm
by jenx
LOL - suicide achievement ;-)

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 2:22 am
by jenx
This bug still occurs in 1.0.3. And it just happened to me in Eidolon Plane of all places !!!!

But what is worse, in the Eidolon plane, it triggers the end of game dialog (e.g. Death! You have died!), even though you might have lives left.

My great dwarf had 4 lives left, but I can't go on.

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:57 pm
by aristalis
So autouse needs to be disabled during movement-only effects and while the player is not the main actor

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:49 am
by Elkan
aristalis wrote:So autouse needs to be disabled during movement-only effects and while the player is not the main actor
Well no, more sensible targetting would be preferable, Silyl AI targeting of bombs is fine, but staff blasts? that can only happen if the Actor is directly targeting itself, which should never be happening. You probably do want your alchemist to zap things with the staff whilst you trundle about with the golem.

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:58 pm
by jenx
Elkan wrote:
aristalis wrote:So autouse needs to be disabled during movement-only effects and while the player is not the main actor
Well no, more sensible targetting would be preferable, Silyl AI targeting of bombs is fine, but staff blasts? that can only happen if the Actor is directly targeting itself, which should never be happening. You probably do want your alchemist to zap things with the staff whilst you trundle about with the golem.
I think I agree with Elkan. It would be great to take hold of a thought-form, enter a vault, but any stray npcs find themselves zapped by your real character. Who might also activate a shielding rune, regen etc when enemies are present, improving their survivability as well.

Re: [1.0.1] Killed by my own thought-form (really!!!)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:13 am
by BoomFrog
Well you can already give yourself talent priorities when not directly controlled with "give order". Autocast should probably remain a separate system.
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