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[1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:34 pm
by grmblfzzz
For the most part enemies act more reasonably, but there are notable exceptions. Some of the bigger ones:

In the Limmir event, the creatures just mill a bout aimlessly, not trying to swamp you/kill Limmir. Can pretty much just wait it out.

Dreads/Banshee's/probably-all-wall-walkers also often just mill about. Takes out like 80% of the dangerousness of Dreadfell.

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:25 am
by yufra
Less dangerous you say? This madness must be stopped!!!

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:22 pm
by Robsoie
Considering the amount of characters i lose in Dredfell, i think the current level of difficulty is certainly enough as it is.

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:57 pm
by Crim, The Red Thunder
I didn't notice huge problems in the shadowy crypt, and almost every enemy there is a wall walker. I did notice a lower density, is it possible there were far more I didn't see, or is monster generation generally a lower density there?

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:49 pm
by grmblfzzz
Well, I generally only play the classes with Track (like Rogues), and the odd/worse behavior is fairly noticeable when you're tracking them all the time. While I can't expect most people to be as masochistic as I am and get saddened at things that lower the difficulty... it's pretty definite on insane.

Isolated Dreads and stuff aren't too much of a problem I suppose, but the Limmir encounter is really a shadow of it's former glory now. Heroic struggles are much more rewarding!

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:11 pm
by SageAcrin
I didn't really notice much of a difference with Dreads, etc., as someone that doesn't constantly spam Track. They trace you a bit less well, but that's it-they still find you for sure, and they're still competent.

So far, the only thing I've noticed as a major challenge loss from b43-and-previous AI is that all of Dreadfell 9 does not mysteriously swarm you, including any immaterial enemies from any of the box pits.

Considering that Dreadfell 9 is still perfectly dangerous, and the effect tended to be "Did you RNG a big pit on Dreadfell 9? Sucks to be you, now die.", well. I'm fine with that change.

If Limmir's quest is, for some reason, being very notably, maybe a special AI command could be used there. Though, having said that, it's already a quest that has two specific, uncommon requirements and that only some classes could realistically complete reliably. Maybe it being easier isn't too bad.

Also, there is somewhat of a challenge boost in one way. I've found myself having absolutely no idea exactly where enemies are after I teleport, which is generally a big improvement. They move enough after you leave so that you can't be sure where they are when you re-engage them.

Re: [1.0] New AI/LOS trivializes some enemies/encounters

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:24 am
by evouga
Limmir's quest was notoriously difficult... I'm not sad to see it nerfed.