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[b35] Archers hitting when they should'nt; Stuns don't work
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:56 am
by Atlar
- Archers hitting me with Acc way lower than my def:
Last one was e.g. 51acc vs my 71def. It seemed to be able to consistently hit me.
Stuns or Confusion don't work, for no (obvious) reason:
Inspection shows no confusion/stun resistance, physical save is waaay lower than my physical power (e.g. 35 save vs 79 power) and the attacks where hits, of course. I think this might happen only with uniques.
The skills I used are Dual Strike, Dirty Fighting and Skullcracker.
Had this problems with my marauder, can't really speak for other classes in b35.
Re: [b35] Archers hitting when they should'nt; Stuns don't w
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:16 pm
by lukep
For the archer: Is it possible that it was shooting "unerring" ammo? That would give it a bonus of 500 to accuracy (before adjustments due to tiers), although you are describing it as a more common problem than would be from that.
For confusion, you need to measure it against their mental save, not physical IIRC, though I doubt that that's the issue if you have good enough stats. Do they immediately get infusion saturation and pain suppression after you attempt a stun/confusion? If so, they are using a Wild infusion to immediately clear the status effect.
Re: [b35] Archers hitting when they should'nt; Stuns don't w
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:07 am
by Fela
Might be a general archery problem though.
My latest Shadowblade death was from archers when normal attacks almost always missed, due to my high defense. Did not check the log though, but next time i will
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Re: [b35] Archers hitting when they should'nt; Stuns don't w
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:51 pm
by Fela
Ok, i remembered to check the log this time:
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[ARCHERY ACQUIRE TARGETS WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
[SHOOT] speed 0.8 => 800
[SHOOT WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
Adding entity 100389 after 100284
[ATTACK ARCHERY] to Chi :: 16.550970047043 5 5 :: 1
checkHit 100 30.55
=> chance to hit 100
[ATTACK ARCHERY] raw dam 16.550970047043 versus 5 with APR 5
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after armor 16.550970047043
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after range 23
[PHYS CRIT %] 1
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after crit 23
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after mult 23
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 23
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 23
[PROJECTOR] res 0 1 on dam 23
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 23
[PROJECTOR] final dam 23
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 6
[PROJECTOR] res 10 0.9 on dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 5.4
[PROJECTOR] final dam 5.4
[LOG] Skeleton archer hits Chi for #aaaaaa#23 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_RED#6 fire#LAST# damage (total 28.40).
skeleton archer 100284 dumb ai talents can use Shoot T_SHOOT
dumb ai uses T_SHOOT
[LOG] Skeleton archer shoots!
[ARCHERY ACQUIRE TARGETS WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
[SHOOT] speed 0.8 => 800
[SHOOT WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
Adding entity 100390 after 100284
[ATTACK ARCHERY] to Chi :: 16.550970047043 5 5 :: 1
checkHit 100 30.55
=> chance to hit 100
[ATTACK ARCHERY] raw dam 16.550970047043 versus 5 with APR 5
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after armor 16.550970047043
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after range 21
[PHYS CRIT %] 1
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after crit 21
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after mult 21
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 21
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 21
[PROJECTOR] res 0 1 on dam 21
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 21
[PROJECTOR] final dam 21
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 6
[PROJECTOR] res 10 0.9 on dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 5.4
[PROJECTOR] final dam 5.4
[LOG] Skeleton archer hits Chi for #aaaaaa#21 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_RED#6 fire#LAST# damage (total 26.40).
skeleton archer 100284 dumb ai talents can use Shoot T_SHOOT
dumb ai uses T_SHOOT
[LOG] Skeleton archer shoots!
[ARCHERY ACQUIRE TARGETS WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
[SHOOT] speed 0.8 => 800
[SHOOT WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
Adding entity 100391 after 100284
[ATTACK ARCHERY] to Chi :: 16.550970047043 5 5 :: 1
checkHit 100 30.55
=> chance to hit 100
[ATTACK ARCHERY] raw dam 16.550970047043 versus 5 with APR 5
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after armor 16.550970047043
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after range 17
[PHYS CRIT %] 1
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after crit 17
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after mult 17
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 17
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 17
[PROJECTOR] res 0 1 on dam 17
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 17
[PROJECTOR] final dam 17
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 6
[PROJECTOR] res 10 0.9 on dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 5.4
[PROJECTOR] final dam 5.4
[LOG] Skeleton archer hits Chi for #aaaaaa#17 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_RED#6 fire#LAST# damage (total 22.40).
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skeleton archer 100284 dumb ai talents can use Shoot T_SHOOT
dumb ai uses T_SHOOT
[LOG] Skeleton archer shoots!
[ARCHERY ACQUIRE TARGETS WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
[SHOOT] speed 0.8 => 800
[SHOOT WITH] elm longbow of power flaming elm arrow of unerring flight
Adding entity 100392 after 100284
[ATTACK ARCHERY] to Chi :: 16.550970047043 5 5 :: 1
checkHit 100 30.55
=> chance to hit 100
[ATTACK ARCHERY] raw dam 16.550970047043 versus 5 with APR 5
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after armor 16.550970047043
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after range 19
[PHYS CRIT %] 1
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after crit 19
[ATTACK ARCHERY] after mult 19
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 19
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 19
[PROJECTOR] res 0 1 on dam 19
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 19
[PROJECTOR] final dam 19
[PROJECTOR] starting dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after difficulty dam 6
[PROJECTOR] res 10 0.9 on dam 6
[PROJECTOR] after resists dam 5.4
[PROJECTOR] final dam 5.4
[LOG] Skeleton archer hits Chi for #aaaaaa#19 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_RED#6 fire#LAST# damage (total 24.40).
I'm not really getting the 100% hit chance against ANY defense (as far as i understand it is now normalized to 100), unless that is a feature of unerring flight?
If so, could we please agree that NPCs should not have a resource that is only overpowered because it is LIMITED?
Edit: b36 not b35