ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

From another thread.

I got Spit Poison from a task.
Spit Poison has a MUCH longer range radius than is shown when I aim it.
When I did aim, I had perhaps 2 or 3 squares in blue, and then it was red including the X over the target, but the poison hit never the less.

Yesterday I tried to Rush an opponent. I aimed and all was blue, but the rush fizzled out and nothing happened without an explanation.
This might have been 5 or 6 tiles away. No obstacles beween me and the target.

Gray@ No, I am abolutely sure about the Rush display.
All in blue and no obstacle in between.

Tom

Tom wrote:Yesterday I tried to Rush an opponent. I aimed and all was blue, but the rush fizzled out and nothing happened without an explanation.
This might have been 5 or 6 tiles away. No obstacles beween me and the target.

yeah, this can happen if you're near the edge of the range, and, yeah, it is a bug. In the targeting code, the range is allowable between source (x,y) and target (tx, tx) if "(tx-x)**2 + (ty-y)**2 < (range+0.5)**2", because this provides a very nice circle. However, many talents use their own check, which is "(tx-x)**2 + (ty-y)**2 < range**2". This was discussed a little bit here:

http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=25019

and I think yufra and I discussed it a little more somewhere else too.

We'd like to use what the targeting code uses for everything, and I think the reason it hasn't been fixed yet is it needs to be fixed in a lot of places, and the work would be a little tedious and boring. Any volunteers?

tiger_eye wrote:We'd like to use what the targeting code uses for everything, and I think the reason it hasn't been fixed yet is it needs to be fixed in a lot of places, and the work would be a little tedious and boring. Any volunteers?

Actually, now that I think I know where all these checks might be hiding, I volunteer myself .

Tom wrote:I got Spit Poison from a task.
Spit Poison has a MUCH longer range radius than is shown when I aim it.
When I did aim, I had perhaps 2 or 3 squares in blue, and then it was red including the X over the target, but the poison hit never the less.

Did you have clear line of sight of all tiles between yourself and the enemy, or were some tiles darkened?

tiger_eye wrote:

tiger_eye wrote:We'd like to use what the targeting code uses for everything, and I think the reason it hasn't been fixed yet is it needs to be fixed in a lot of places, and the work would be a little tedious and boring. Any volunteers?

Actually, now that I think I know where all these checks might be hiding, I volunteer myself .

Tom wrote:I got Spit Poison from a task.
Spit Poison has a MUCH longer range radius than is shown when I aim it.
When I did aim, I had perhaps 2 or 3 squares in blue, and then it was red including the X over the target, but the poison hit never the less.

Did you have clear line of sight of all tiles between yourself and the enemy, or were some tiles darkened?

If any tiles where darkened I can not recall for sure.
But the area was open.

tiger_eye wrote:

tiger_eye wrote:We'd like to use what the targeting code uses for everything, and I think the reason it hasn't been fixed yet is it needs to be fixed in a lot of places, and the work would be a little tedious and boring. Any volunteers?

Actually, now that I think I know where all these checks might be hiding, I volunteer myself .

Tom wrote:I got Spit Poison from a task.
Spit Poison has a MUCH longer range radius than is shown when I aim it.
When I did aim, I had perhaps 2 or 3 squares in blue, and then it was red including the X over the target, but the poison hit never the less.

Did you have clear line of sight of all tiles between yourself and the enemy, or were some tiles darkened?

Hmm.
Now that I think some more about it, it is possible that some tiles actually were darkened.
I often play with zero and no light radius and depend on the rogue skill Hightened Senses which makes your suspicions very probable.

i just have the same problem with a doomed i tested on arena (btw it's not fair to spawn four level 30 monsters between many others in an ordinal wave against my level 18 char ><)

many of doomed talents couldn't be cast at the limit range (but with blue aiming line). i.e. it was written in the log that i cast them but 1) they did nothing 2) usually they didn't set cooldown. also blast aiming is really misleading, when i upgraded it to 5/5 i couldn't aim it without affecting myself, i.e. i could but i couldn't cast it and when i aimed it one tile closer i was in its area. so i was afraid to cast it thinking it could kill me (it seems it's safe to cast though unlike scatter shot)

Blast does not affect you, but you can still be hit by monsters being knocked out from the centre and into you.