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instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:48 pm
by martinuzz
My skeleton AB just got killed on the second level (or level 6 actually) of the Blighted ruins by stepping on a acid trap.
It did 104 damage, which instakilled my 100hp level 1 character.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:20 pm
by Final Master
And why is this a bug?
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:54 pm
by Grey
More a design flaw. Traps shouldn't do that level of damage in low level areas.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:27 pm
by madmonk
Grey wrote:More a design flaw. Traps shouldn't do that level of damage in low level areas.
Not sure I agree with that particular line of reasoning...
On the other hand if there is no method or workaround to avoid traps in any way (disable/disarm/dig/PD) then I would agree that is a problem.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:49 pm
by Grey
This is the second level of the starter area for undead. Not everyone has access to trap detection, and even it isn't reliable. I'm not sure how any character can reasonably be expected to avoid this.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:01 pm
by madmonk
Not quite what I said... If you can't avoid the trap then that is a problem...
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So look at the above, the skeleton has detected the trap but can't get round it and would have to walk over it to get to the stairs up. That's a game killer, right there!
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:12 pm
by madmonk
Undiggable walls in the starting dungeon for undead - which makes it worse.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:25 pm
by martinuzz
Final Master wrote:And why is this a bug?
Because I remember changelogs (quite a few versions ago) stating that traps had been nerfed such, that they couldn't instakill new characters anymore.
And yes indeed, I hit that trap in such a situation that it was impossible to circumvent it, except with phase door. I had that, but I also hadn't detected it before I stepped on it.
Re: instakill from trap for 1st level char (b19)
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:24 pm
by greycat
A trap that can do over 100 damage on the second level of a starting dungeon is a balance problem. Period.