ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Most monsters in the dungeon will be immobile when you meet them, until you enter melee range. Is this due to a change in LOS management (they don't see you so they don't move)?
Another annoying fact is that when you move and enter melee range, all monsters now get the first blow... This gives ranged characters a great advantage over melee characters.

Hmmm... I am playing a Rogue at the moment so I thought it had something to do with that (I'm not saying I was on stealth mode though).
The Derth encounter was specially risky since the 'E's wouldn't chase me down.

But in general the behavior isn't working properly if it's happening like you say.

I just checked and monsters have "Target: none" until you are in melee range. In the Spellblaze dungeon, the elven blood mages/corruptors were even targeting the air elementals instead of the character...

In the mark of the spellblaze the elves *ARE* battling the elementals, it aint a bug.

As for the weird behavior of not moving, is there is trigger you can find ? can you send me a save exhibiting that behavior ?

Yeah just found out that the elves in the spellblaze are a different faction than the elementals, so they can fight each other...

Concerning the other monsters, I suppose they don't move because the character is considered as out of LOS. This will trigger the problem:

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Monster will have "target:none" until the character moves in melee range:

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And this is "just" the LOS not being symetric then :/

This is still a problem in b18.

Hmm, and I'm not sure it's a LoS issue either - check out this image:



Of course, it could be a problem with LoS updating late too.