How do you win insane with a melee class?
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:46 pm
I recently won insane / roguelike with an archmage and then doomed. I then tried to play marauder and it seems impossible to win unless the RNG with gear and bosses are HEAVILY in your favor.
My last run just ended in reknor because two bulwark randbosses spawned next to each other with 150+ armor. My character was only level 35 with about 34 armor penetration. I had a corroding weapon and tried using tooth of the mouth for 15 more armor pen but I could not do any damage.
When trying to escape or find stairs to next level, they kept using call to battle talent which pulls you through walls and across the zone. I could not disarm or stun them because they would immediately clear the effects either through unflinching resolve or some other means, one was a skeleton, so its racial gave very short duration debuffs.
I was able to damage one of them down to 50% health over 50 or so turns, but vitality kicked in regening to full.
I had to skip a randboss in dreadfell on level 4 and again on level 7 for the same reason, randboss had insane armor. In fact, there was a bulwark randboss in the scintillating caves I could not damage at level 12, came back at level 30, and took 30 or so turns to kill him. The worst is bulwark/cursed with repel. The repel chance is so high level that you cannot hit with melee attacks.
I won in version 1.5 with a poisonless rogue and in 1.5 melee were amazing. Coming back after awhile it seems like melee can't do any damage and continually run into impossible randbosses. I did not have to skip anything on the doomed or archmage, in fact, the melee bosses were only a speed bump.
I usually don't play melee classes because the stat spread and various gear requirements are too much. For example, you need str for dmg. dex for acurracy, willpower for stamina, and con for health. Your gear also needs phys power, accuracy, armor or defense which conflicts with res pen, crit mult, and +dmg. This makes melee extremely weak most of the game.
Is it possible to actually have 100+ armor pen at level 35 or do you have to go 5/5 in device mastery and pray the RNG gives you items you can use? Or is it necessary to unlock poisons or to win now?
I am looking for some general tips on winning on insane with a melee.
My last run just ended in reknor because two bulwark randbosses spawned next to each other with 150+ armor. My character was only level 35 with about 34 armor penetration. I had a corroding weapon and tried using tooth of the mouth for 15 more armor pen but I could not do any damage.
When trying to escape or find stairs to next level, they kept using call to battle talent which pulls you through walls and across the zone. I could not disarm or stun them because they would immediately clear the effects either through unflinching resolve or some other means, one was a skeleton, so its racial gave very short duration debuffs.
I was able to damage one of them down to 50% health over 50 or so turns, but vitality kicked in regening to full.
I had to skip a randboss in dreadfell on level 4 and again on level 7 for the same reason, randboss had insane armor. In fact, there was a bulwark randboss in the scintillating caves I could not damage at level 12, came back at level 30, and took 30 or so turns to kill him. The worst is bulwark/cursed with repel. The repel chance is so high level that you cannot hit with melee attacks.
I won in version 1.5 with a poisonless rogue and in 1.5 melee were amazing. Coming back after awhile it seems like melee can't do any damage and continually run into impossible randbosses. I did not have to skip anything on the doomed or archmage, in fact, the melee bosses were only a speed bump.
I usually don't play melee classes because the stat spread and various gear requirements are too much. For example, you need str for dmg. dex for acurracy, willpower for stamina, and con for health. Your gear also needs phys power, accuracy, armor or defense which conflicts with res pen, crit mult, and +dmg. This makes melee extremely weak most of the game.
Is it possible to actually have 100+ armor pen at level 35 or do you have to go 5/5 in device mastery and pray the RNG gives you items you can use? Or is it necessary to unlock poisons or to win now?
I am looking for some general tips on winning on insane with a melee.