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Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:39 am
by e1337ist
I have both the eye of summer and winter equipped, and unless I've just been exceedingly unlucky, leaves tide doesn't seem to proc their abilities when it hits something, despite being a mindpower/naturepower. I can proc them with my other buttons. What gives?

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:37 am
by jenx
e1337ist wrote:I have both the eye of summer and winter equipped, and unless I've just been exceedingly unlucky, leaves tide doesn't seem to proc their abilities when it hits something, despite being a mindpower/naturepower. I can proc them with my other buttons. What gives?
Doesn't it proc when you use a mindpower? Hitting is not a mindpower.

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:12 am
by ibanix
jenx wrote:
e1337ist wrote:I have both the eye of summer and winter equipped, and unless I've just been exceedingly unlucky, leaves tide doesn't seem to proc their abilities when it hits something, despite being a mindpower/naturepower. I can proc them with my other buttons. What gives?
Doesn't it proc when you use a mindpower? Hitting is not a mindpower.

Exactly this. For Eye of Winter:

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talent_on_mind = {{chance=10, talent=Talents.T_WINTER_S_FURY, level=2},}
It has to be a mindpower. 'Attack' is never a mindpower, or a spell, or anything other than a physical effect, as far as I know.

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:37 am
by e1337ist
ibanix wrote:

Exactly this. For Eye of Winter:

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talent_on_mind = {{chance=10, talent=Talents.T_WINTER_S_FURY, level=2},}
It has to be a mindpower. 'Attack' is never a mindpower, or a spell, or anything other than a physical effect, as far as I know.
I'm confused. My question isn't about an actual attack, it's about the skill Leaves Tide "hitting" things for lack of a better word. In the game it says the chance is "on hit", but if I'm understanding that bit of code correctly, it's actually an on cast proc? So that means: A) It doesn't have to be a damaging mindpower, it could be a heal? and B) skills that hit multiple opponents or multiple times don't actually have multiple chances to proc like I thought?

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:45 am
by jenx
I know it works, I've seen it often. It only triggers 10% of the time

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:32 am
by Radon26
ibanix.
you seem to have taken it, that Eli started punching things, expecting that that would trigger it.

If I read it correctly, Eli has activated leave tide, and IT has dealt damage to some nearby enemies, and no proc came out.

leaves tide, is a mind powered Storm shaped active.
you activate it, and it deals damage to all enemies in its range, for the duration.
whatever it deals damage to, should give a chance for the proc.

however, as jenx pointed out, it has only 10% of the chance.

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:09 pm
by e1337ist
Hmm, I see. I tried for a few minutes in the fortress last night to make it happen against the dummies, but I could very well have just been quite unlucky. I might see if I can force it to work later. Thanks guys!

Re: Why isn't leaves tide triggering the eye of summer?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:27 am
by ibanix
Sorry, it seems I misread the original question.

The talent_on_mind is used in the damage projector code (found inside damage_types.lua), and has a "if dam > 0" conditional.

So, the talent has to do damage in order the trigger the chance for the proc to happen.