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Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:09 pm
by IvenGray
It displays on the character sheet that my cornac Berserker has an attack speed 120%.

First question, what does it mean? I guess it means my attacks would be slightly slower, because sustaining Precise Strike increase the speed from 120% to 133.3%, is my guess right?

If my guess is right, then what caused the attack speed? I've changed several equipment, but the attack speed didn't change. So, I guess it's not because of some hidden effect of my wearings. And I found out that when using weapons of 90% attack speed, the attack speed display on character sheets are still 120%. So I wonder is that something wrong with the display or is that some change of the mechanism? If it's about mechanism, then what caused a slow attack speed of my character?

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:15 pm
by PureQuestion
Can I see your character sheet please? There's a certain weapon that slows your attack speed down to that value.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:34 pm
by Crim, The Red Thunder
Don't all 2handers automagically have 120% attack speed by default? And since any berserker would be using a 2hander at birth, this seems normal?

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:47 pm
by PureQuestion
no, 2hers are 100%. Except for one.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:01 pm
by IvenGray
Character sheet:
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Item sheet:
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Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:03 pm
by lukep
It's because you are wearing gauntlets. I think that it's just a cosmetic bug because they slow down your unarmed attacks, but I'm not sure.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:34 am
by IvenGray
Yes, you are right, lukep. I did some experiments in the training room, and it turns out that it is because of my Gauntlet. And it is a cosmetic bug, since it has no actual effect.

But there is another thing that I don't understand. I'm wearing a quick weapon of 90% attack speed, but I can't see the speed bonus reflected. Every attack of mine takes exactly one training turn, and I assume a training turn is a game turn, so there must be something wrong. Is that a bug?

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:03 am
by jenx
count carefully your turns and opponents. every ten turns, you'll get two hits and he'll get one. the 10% you gain each turn with the faster weapon accumulates.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:43 am
by itastelikelove
Precise strikes will cancel out the speed gain, and bring you back to 100%. Cancel precise strikes and you should get your extra swing every ten turns.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:27 pm
by IvenGray
No, sustaining Precise Strike costs me an extra turn every 10 turns. The quick weapon just didn't work.

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:15 pm
by jenx
IvenGray wrote:No, sustaining Precise Strike costs me an extra turn every 10 turns. The quick weapon just didn't work.
Iven, to understand speed in tome, read my guide: http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=36880

Re: Why is my cornac Berserker's default attack speed 120%?

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:17 am
by IvenGray
Thanks, jenx. I've read your guide before, and it is pretty helpful.
My problem was that my quick weapon have the same combat speed as a normal 100% attack speed weapon. As you can see in my screenshots, I was wearing a quick weapon, and I found no other equipments to slow my atk speed. Then I did some experients in the training room:
-Precise Strike off, and character sheet says my atk speed 120%. I hit the dummy for 50 turns, turns out exactly one turn per hit.
-Precise Strike on, shown atk speed 133.33%, about every 10 hits takes another turn.
-Switched to normal weapon, shown atk speed didn't change. But I forgot to hit the dummy to test actual speed.

I suspect it was some bug. But I've gone over the period, and my then used weapon is now transmogrified, so I can't prove.