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[1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:12 am
by jenx
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:15 pm
by Crim, The Red Thunder
Meet Jenx, the one to begin a holocaust of millions of dead player characters. It's astounding how much difference this makes. Skeleton archers are almost as bad as their master brethren now. And the sheer number of smartly used stuns/poisons/etc are resulting in a great GREAT many dead characters. You have in this one fell swoop brought more blood and tears to yourself then DarkGod could ever hope to gather.
*votes for more improvement, and integration to maingame*
How are enemies at very low cooldown (say, high level insane enemies, or deep ID enemies) at using these things when they cooldown again before a debuff wears off? For instance, will they now spam cripple on us, while we're still crippled? Or waste another stun, while we're still stunned?
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:45 pm
by Hachem_Muche
Since this is a modification of the "dumb_talented" ai, the NPC's won't consider anything about their target when picking talents. The more effective (and much slower) tactical ai that all bosses and many elites use does look at the target when picking talents, but doesn't consider debuffs directly.
This is another reason to fix debuff stacking. See
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=37964 and
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=38342
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:57 pm
by jenx
Crim, The Red Thunder wrote:Meet Jenx, the one to begin a holocaust of millions of dead player characters. It's astounding how much difference this makes. Skeleton archers are almost as bad as their master brethren now. And the sheer number of smartly used stuns/poisons/etc are resulting in a great GREAT many dead characters. You have in this one fell swoop brought more blood and tears to yourself then DarkGod could ever hope to gather.
*votes for more improvement, and integration to maingame*
How are enemies at very low cooldown (say, high level insane enemies, or deep ID enemies) at using these things when they cooldown again before a debuff wears off? For instance, will they now spam cripple on us, while we're still crippled? Or waste another stun, while we're still stunned?
It's not that bad
I'm on nightmare mode now, and surviving, just!
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:05 am
by jenx
Update
I've updated the add-on in several ways.
1. I've introduced a scaling threshold for activation of healing talents. This is based on my own experience. Early in the game, I use heals/regens sooner rather than later. so I've changed the code to make the threshold 80% - maxlife/100. So at 100 life, it is 79% and at 2000 life it is 60%.
2. I've introduced a force heal. That is, if the criteria above is reached, the heal always occurs, regardless of how many talents are available.
3. I've improved the log output.
So here is an example of the new log format, with the forced heal being used by a spitting spider:
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AI took for target 87779 spitting spider :: 1538 Lekra 4 < 100
AI took for target 87043 thought-forged warrior :: 87779 spitting spider 4 < 100
[LOG] #UID:1538:0#Lekra hits spitting spider for #YELLOW#4 mind#LAST#, #GREY#3 darkness#LAST# damage (total 6.62).
[LOG] #UID:87779:0#Spitting spider hits Lekra for #LIGHT_GREEN#14 nature#LAST# damage.
[LOG] #UID:87043:0#Thought-forged warrior hits spitting spider for #aaaaaa#45 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_GREEN#2 nature#LAST# damage (total 46.71).
[LOG] #UID:1538:0#Lekra hits spitting spider for #YELLOW#4 mind#LAST#, #GREY#3 darkness#LAST# damage (total 6.62).
[LOG] #UID:87779:0#Spitting spider hits Lekra for #LIGHT_GREEN#13 nature#LAST# damage.
[LOG] #UID:87043:0#Thought-forged warrior hits spitting spider for #aaaaaa#50 physical#LAST#, #LIGHT_GREEN#2 nature#LAST# damage (total 51.71).
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Infusion: Healing T_INFUSION:_HEALING_1
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Infusion: Sun T_INFUSION:_SUN_2
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Attack T_ATTACK
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Lay Web T_LAY_WEB
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Spit Poison T_SPIT_POISON
spitting spider 87779 dumb ai talents can use Web T_SPIDER_WEB
dumb ai uses T_INFUSION:_HEALING_1
spitting spider 87779 Healing talent forced use <<<<<<<<<<<< 1
[LOG] Spitting spider uses Infusion: Healing.
[HEALING] 87779 spitting spider for 101.35
See how in this example, the spider has as options healing infusion, sun infusion, attack (which would be forbidden), lay web, spit poison and spider web. This line indicates that the dumb ai has been forced to use the healing infusion:
spitting spider 87779 Healing talent forced use <<<<<<<<<<<< 1
Hence the dumb ai is slightly tougher to beat now!!
Have fun.
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:40 am
by Doctornull
I'd like to try this, but I get that the addon version is bad (using the most recent one, ending in _2.teaa).
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:53 am
by jenx
Doctornull wrote:I'd like to try this, but I get that the addon version is bad (using the most recent one, ending in _2.teaa).
ok, I've reloaded it and updated the md5 - does it work now?
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:14 am
by Doctornull
jenx wrote:ok, I've reloaded it and updated the md5 - does it work now?
I'm still getting bad addon version :-/
BTW, from my log, here's what I see for your module's MD5:
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[MODULE LOADER] addon ai-tough MD5 9457a019e91f5fed448ec95ab7e1014f computed in 1 nil
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:54 am
by jenx
Doctornull wrote:jenx wrote:ok, I've reloaded it and updated the md5 - does it work now?
I'm still getting bad addon version :-/
BTW, from my log, here's what I see for your module's MD5:
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[MODULE LOADER] addon ai-tough MD5 9457a019e91f5fed448ec95ab7e1014f computed in 1 nil
that's correct - perhaps GD hasn't included it yet on the server then.
Re: [1.0.4] Tough Dumb AI
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:31 pm
by jotwebe
Same problem for me, and it's been a while...