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[1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:53 am
by anp
Here's the link:
http://te4.org/characters/77557/tome/cf ... a47554aea4

Well, I have to say that the playing lich necromancer was way too different than summoner (my first winner); of course, guides which I read before making this character helped alot!
ALL, absolutely all deaths were max stupid, shame on me! Although, I've been once two-turns-killed by " Forgery of haze (iamerror) " - didn't even see what's this!
Finally, after beating the game, tried to kill Atamathon but failed twice - first try I downed him to 2k hp and died teleporting; 2nd try I failed because of erm stupidity :) Anyway, I'll kill him someday!

You can see that I have 1 point in summon necrotic minions - that wasn't mistake! Yes, I had it from the 1st lvl but actually minion saved my life atleast twice, be it weak and not tanky even!
Have to admit that the temporary form prodigy is kinda awesome for the midgame, but later, when I've maxed out the Overseer of Nations, the autocast proced too early, let's say 15-17 tiles afar from target. Is there any way to make autocast work with , for example, "when foes are in radius 10" ?

Now that I've got a Steam version of the game - sad that I can't import characters nor achievements (yet?) - I now want to try out the Nightmare difficulty and (not with!) permadeath!

Wish you the best luck, dearest guys!

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:01 am
by mordecai
Minionless necros rock!

I have won twice with them and I am juggling an attempted nightmare win with one as we'll currently. Trying to get one farther than my Nightmare solipsist and also playing with a nightmare Reaver build.

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:39 am
by TheSlayer
Congratulations! Well played!

It is so very good to hear an evaluation of this higher/caster/temporal necromancer. Am I understanding correctly that you used the "necronomancer" guide/build? If so, thanks so much for sharing and know that you did better than my pioneer run. I only had one life for Atamathon ;)

My deaths were all similar to your description when playing this setup. Even with Atamathon, though worse because I slaughtered him the first time then realized it was offline (so I forced a crash to redo and get the achievement, which was incredibly stupid and cost me my last life).

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:24 pm
by anp
Thanks for the responses :)
Yeah, I think, I used your guide; actually, at 30ish lvl I hadn't somewhy good choices of prodigy, so I decided to try out the temporal form and it worked SO GOOD!
Also to mention, I managed to clear out the great wyrms room at level 35!!! Without even deaths (you can check the achievement); it was very nervous, of course, took maybe 20-30 minutes to accomplish this task and I was like YEAHS! when I got the achievement. (Shame it won't go to steam, though)

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:59 pm
by Hempel123
Wasnt it a big problem that you dont have any defensiv options except celestial/light?

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:54 am
by anp
Well, as you can see, I had many deaths (by my own stupidity), but as soon as you get lichform, and thus obtaining the 2nd beam (from the Star Fury) and (not long after it) the 1st prodigy, you start to kick arses. And, btw, as I mentioned, my 1pt minion and forgery of haze are helping guys for sure.

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:33 am
by Mankeli
Congrats, well done! Playing a minionless necro lich myself too. Currently heading for Reknor, then Mark of the Spellblaze, then East.

One question: What's the point in picking temporal form for necromancer? IIRC you are not the first one I've seen to pick this on a lich necro so there probably is point :lol:. Is it that you can hurt enemies that resist heavily/are immune to darkness?

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:47 am
by anp
Actually, it's (IMHO) one of the best prodigies for the casting damage dealer - you gain immunities, some res (minor update) and further growth of your dmg you see - 50% conversion, and since you get the <highest dmg bonus>+30% to temporal dmg, it works like +15% overall. Yes, I got way higher darkness penetration, but on common-rare enemies the temporary form worked like charm!
also to mention, somewhy those two anomalies didn't work - just no effect at all. But I think I wouldn't use them anyway :)
One more advice - try to get the lantern with the moonlight ray - for backup beam , just in case. You can see that I have one. Also, rune of the rift with telugoroth form... well, you can see the dmg at the char sheet

Re: [1.0.5] Second winner - Higher Lich Necromancer

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:29 am
by Mankeli
Ok!

My character is quite like yours except I'm playing a thaloren-lich and will probably go with Corrupted shell after gaining the necessary 4 levels for level 32.