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No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:02 pm
by Final Master
This is a new challenge and the rules are simple.

1) No artifacts at all. You can't wield them, sell them, buy them, use them or even pick them up. It is easy to tell what is an artifact and what isn't because the item will have an odd name when un'id. If, for storyline reasons you must pick up/use an item, then you may do so.

2) Any race is allowed.

3) Any class is allowed.

4) Difficulty: Normal

5) Along with no artifacts, all dungeons and quests must be completed. This includes the optional/side quests. It doesn't matter when they are completed, but they must be completed before the entrance to the final dungeon.

6) Post character dumps here

7) The winner of the challenge will be determined by how many quests he/she completed.

8) Additional Challenge: Use only non-egoed equipment. If you are able to complete the game following these rules along with this additional rule, Congratulations! You are AMAZING!!!

Thanks for all those that will be competing and good luck!
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RULES REVISION AS OF NOVEMBER 9TH, 2010 9:37 AM CENTRAL STANDARD TIME MEXICO CITY
If an item is oddly named/yellow when identified, it is an ARTIFACT. You CANNOT pick up, sell, use, wear, or carry any of these items, except for the following:

Rod of Recall - You may use it once (1 time) to leave the Tempest Keep, but you MUST drop it as soon as you are able.

Staff of Absorbtion - You MUST pick up this item and only carry it [ NO WIELDING ] until the event.

The 4 (four) Orc Pride Orbs - You MUST pick these up and only carry them [ NO WIELDING ] until you are able to use them for the appropriate quest.

The Scrolls - The artifact scrolls are all tied to quests, so you MUST/may* pick them up and complete the associated quests.

If there are any other artifacts of this nature that I did not list, then use these artifacts as your template. If it MUST be picked up/used to complete the quest, then you may do so in the capacity to complete the quest.

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FAQ:
Q: Use Angmar's Fall to get into Angolwen?
A: No, it's an artifact. There are alternate means.

Q: So just to clarify....we get to do the sandworm lair and not eat the heart?
A: Yes, this is correct. The heart is an artifact, so you get to do the dungeon, but not eat the heart.

Q: Does no artifacts also mean no Ring of Mandos, Blood of Life, Ever Refilling Potion of Healing/Mana as well?
A: YES

Q: What about Long Scrolls and Giant Potions, along with their proofing?
A: They are green, and fine unless you are attempting the 'No Ego Item' extreme difficulty optional challenge.

Regarding the 'No Ego Item' extreme difficulty optional challenge:
Items of no worth are: Rings, Amulets, Belts, Wands
These items are worthless to you outside of getting to Angolwen if choosing the additional challenge of not using ego items as well - because without being ego flagged [ GREEN colored ] they have no effect in game.

If your character is generated with an ego item, you may either drop it turn 1, or rebirth the character NOT using quickbirth.

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How points are awarded:

Points are awarded for the progression you make through the game. The only real way to show this is through the quest log and character level. So here's the break down:
1 point for each character level
2 points for each dungeon quest
1.5 points for each non-random side/optional quest (Storming Bree/Apprentice Mage ect)
There are no (0) points for escort quests as these are randomly generated
*BONUS* For each level you are BELOW 50 when/if you win the game, you gain 2 additional points

*So, with this revision and greater explanation to the rules, you no longer have to do each quest, but you receive a higher score with the more quests you do.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:24 pm
by paboperfecto
I believe that you are going to at least have to pick up the staff of absorption once.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:27 pm
by Final Master
paboperfecto wrote:I believe that you are going to at least have to pick up the staff of absorption once.
Final Master wrote:This is a new challenge and the rules are simple.

1) No artifacts at all. You can't wield them, sell them, buy them, use them or even pick them up. It is easy to tell what is an artifact and what isn't because the item will have an odd name when un'id. If, for storyline reasons you must pick up/use an item, then you may do so.
Care to reread that again pabo?

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:32 pm
by paboperfecto
I refuse to read it again or to be held responsible for my misunderstandings when I skim posts. :)

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:26 pm
by greycat
At least one of the artifacts no longer has a special name -- it appears as an "ash staff". Pretty easy not to know you're holding that one until you see the sale price in the store, or identify it magically.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:40 pm
by Final Master
If that's the case, then that can be an exception.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:43 pm
by darkgod
Yeah I fixed this one :)

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:31 pm
by overtrix
Ouff, no ego eqpt - does that mean no stun resistance, think so ... sounds like a very nervous or cheesy passage to meet the head *** bloke, else CRACK-wisht-wisht-swoosh-fzzt :)

Also how about when/if you smack the wizards, in a dark and gloomy corner is found (if so inclined) the entrance to a bottomless pit, 'tight' like Orthanc so one false move could be toasted. No up stairs, everything (npc and loot alike) just levelling inexorably, for the extreme masochists - or maybe have a portal on each 8-12th level, in case of a change of heart, but the entrance thereafter blocked.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:37 pm
by Grey
Does no egos include no rings or amulets?

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:02 am
by madmonk
Started....

Died....

Started (Take 2).

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:11 am
by Final Master
Grey wrote:Does no egos include no rings or amulets?
If you were to do the optional no ego quest, then yes, that would make all rings, amulets and belts worthless, because non ego'd, they do nothing.

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:55 am
by greycat
overtrix wrote:Ouff, no ego eqpt - does that mean no stun resistance, think so ...
You could get it from your class talent as a Fighter, or by combining a quartz ring (or two) with some less-than-100% class talents as other classes.

I won't even attempt either of these two challenges, though. For me, a challenge game is "play any class, normally". :roll:

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:24 am
by paboperfecto
So just to clarify....we get to do the sandworm lair and not eat the heart?

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:00 am
by paboperfecto
What are we doing with the rod of recall, do we need to drop it after the necessary use?

Re: No Artifact Challenege

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:23 am
by Repton
Use Angmar's Fall to get into Angolwen?