ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Hello all! In what little spare time I have these days I'm investigating what it will take to bring TE4 to mobile platforms, specifically tablets (although a phone works in a pinch ). I'm making this post to condense my findings on the topic and share with anyone else who may be interested.

iOS

I've rebuilt all the engine's dependent libraries (SDL-1.3+, sdl_ttf, sdl_mixer, sdl_image, THEIR dependencies, etc) from source, mostly from the latest releases with darkgod's additions foward ported as needed. Important note: top-of-trunk SDL contains new mobile-specific functionality for both graphics and the touch interface that will have a place in new T-Engine code.

While most of the libraries build "out-of-the-box" using Xcode 4.3.1 but you'll need to download a GLu replacement for OpenGL ES at least: http://code.google.com/p/glues/.

Apple won't allow LuaJit to run under iOS, but either the interpreted version or the standard Lua engine should work fine. I'm using the standard implementation because I figure it is more likely to work

Here are the final linking issues I've hit during the engine build:

- The latest versions of PhysFS (not the one included with the t-engine source) contains iOS support, but some custom work from the engine had to be ported in due to the newer version missing those symbols required by the engine.
- OpenGL ES also does not provide the following functions.. but, here are the fixes!

glOrtho: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7131 ... z-values-f
glClearDepth: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4704 ... ng-problem
glPush/PopAttrib: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4657 ... -opengl-es

- Many symbols exported in SDL_compat.h are missing. Issues in the compatibility layer aren't unexpected, but I haven't had time to look into these:
SDL_WM_ToggleFullScreen
SDL_SetAlpha
SDL_ListModes
SDL_SetGamma
SDL_WM_SetCaption
SDL_EnableRepeatKey

I've also been able to package the engine's requisite file structure and I don't think there will be any issues there. Adding additional TE4 modules (ie InfiniteRoad) once the app is installed on a device would require the device to be jailbroken (!). Save games are large, yes, but iPads start at 16GB... plus there's always iCloud

Android

I haven't really started on this side of things, but the process is similar to iOS. Use the Android NDK to build everything. It provides a mechanism for native-only applications, so a Java wrapper isn't a strict requirement. The OpenGL ES and SDL issues apply to Android as well as iOS. I haven't looked at Android support in PhysFS yet.

Happy hunting!

Neat, keep us updated!

Eager Android user here!

I'm using an Asus Transformer TF101, anything I can do to help?

How is the project coming along? I saw something in the newest Beta Regarding changes to the font format for 'Driod' Devices, just going to assume that is in relation to this?

The font is just a standard fixed width font that I suggested be used because it looks nicer than the Vera one used before (especially the @ symbol).

I'd also be very interested in seeing this on the App Store.

Rappler wrote:I've also been able to package the engine's requisite file structure and I don't think there will be any issues there. Adding additional TE4 modules (ie InfiniteRoad) once the app is installed on a device would require the device to be jailbroken (!). Save games are large, yes, but iPads start at 16GB... plus there's always iCloud

Couldn't you use the iTunes sideloading functionality for modules etc.? Don't get me wrong, I'm on a jailbroken device, but it seems like a possible thing to implement.

Any.progress?

Also how is Darkgod's own adventures in this genre coming along? Personally i see this (tablets and phones) the direction roguelikes will get a strong.life again.

Looks like this is an old thread now. Is it now dead in the water?

I'd support an Android / Ouya version on Kickstarter if it was feasible...

Just a small commentary: ToME is unable to work correctly on my netbook, Samsung N102S (bought a few months ago). Whereas a monolithic Nethack has no problem on my phone I guess the LUA stuff easily gets too heavy, and there is probably no hope of having ToME working on a standard phone. Maybe on very very expensive tablets but that's all.

Well yes it requires a real computer, with a CPU and a GPU and all such things; I think it can be made to work on android & ios yes

muso wrote: I'd support an Android / Ouya version on Kickstarter if it was feasible...

I'd very strongly support an Android port :)

It should be a matter of using OpenGL for android and compiling it, yeah? Easy!*

* By, "easy" I mean may be possible, but I would have no idea how to do it.

It's veyr hard acually, but yeah "possible"

You mean an Android port would actually be *possible*?