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Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:17 am
by Tom
If I have Hightened Senses, is the wintertide phial worthless if Im in stealth?
Just to be sure I do not do anything silly.
Tom
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:01 pm
by Grey
Infravision and heightened senses stack, so with the two together you'll have a much higher infravision range.
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:20 pm
by Tom
Grey wrote:Infravision and heightened senses stack, so with the two together you'll have a much higher infravision range.
Oh. That was good news. But really, should they?
Thx!!
Tom
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:38 pm
by Final Master
Yes, because it's the same thing. :p
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:31 pm
by Tom
Final Master wrote:Yes, because it's the same thing. :p
If it is, they should have the same name.
To use two different names for the same thing is confusing.
I wrote before that infravision is something different than here in ToME.
Tom
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:51 pm
by Final Master
So you are saying that you want everything to either say " You have Heightened Senses +x " or " You have Infravision +x " ?
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:39 pm
by Tom
Final Master wrote:So you are saying that you want everything to either say " You have Heightened Senses +x " or " You have Infravision +x " ?
No, that sounds pretty silly.
Best would be if one of the expressions would disappear or that they are easilly understood to be the same kind of skill.
Call both skills infravision for example, or even better Darkvision.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Infravision
Infravision was a type of vision that many non-human species had, in addition to "normal sight", in Dungeons & Dragons and Advanced Dungeons & Dragons prior to version 3.0 of the game. In 3.0 and later, the ability was removed from the game and replaced with darkvision. The primary reason for the change was that, given it's name, infravision implied that the creature detected the infrared spectrum of light and this caused a variety of problems.
Tom
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:53 pm
by greycat
I could have sworn the tooltip on Heightened Senses says that it grants infravision. Was I imagining that?
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:54 pm
by Grey
ToME4's effect is much more like infravision, since it only sees enemies (with some up close real sight).
Re: Infravision vs Hightened Senses
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:51 pm
by Tom
greycat wrote:I could have sworn the tooltip on Heightened Senses says that it grants infravision. Was I imagining that?
Not sure what you mean but the description is:
You notice the small things others do not see, allowing you to 'see' creatures in a 6 radius even outside light radius.
This is not telepathy though, and is still limited by line of sight.