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Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:17 am
by Dranwin
Hey folks,

Hey I have a question thats been bugging me for a while about Summoners,

How much does willpower affect the summons themselves? As far as I can tell, the summons are not scaling as I raise willpower. The only reason I can see to raise willpower is for skill requirements. After I reach my requirements should I even bother continuing?

Re: Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:21 am
by Massimiliano Marangio
The main stats of your summons are based on your Willpower, e.g. Magic of the Fire Imp, and this determine their damage output.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:00 pm
by Dranwin
You sure? It sounds like it should, but I have not noticed my imps damage raise since i've had it at level 5..willpowers gone up 30-40 points though

Re: Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:46 pm
by yufra
I just checked fire imps, and their magic statistic is strongly dependent on the summoner's willpower. The damage of a fire imp's bolt directly depends on their spellpower, which gets a bonus from magic. Should be fine...

Re: Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:52 pm
by Dranwin
The imp spellpower gets a bonus from magic? or willpower..

Re: Summoners

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:14 pm
by Sirrocco
The claim is that the imp's damage is based on the imp's spellpower, which is based on the imp's magic. The imp's magic, in turn, is based on the summoner's willpower. I know nothing about the realities, myself.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:46 am
by yufra
Sirrocco wrote:The claim is that the imp's damage is based on the imp's spellpower, which is based on the imp's magic. The imp's magic, in turn, is based on the summoner's willpower.
Thanks for the clear description, Sirrocco. This is what happens, at least in the case of fire imps.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:37 pm
by Obsidian
I can confirm, increasing willpower increases the stats and damage of the summons.

Additionally, summons benefit from +elemental % gear as well. Throw on a few rings of burning, and your fire imps will do increased damage.

The skill level of a summon though seems to be where the largest gains in performance come from though.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:40 pm
by greycat
Obsidian wrote: Additionally, summons benefit from +elemental % gear as well. Throw on a few rings of burning, and your fire imps will do increased damage.
O_o

Is that with Summon Control, or without, or both? Is that a bug or a feature?

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:07 pm
by Final Master
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the change log files about 5 betas ago, and is a feature.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:10 pm
by darkgod
It's a feature, all Summoner's summons use increased damage of the caster.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:50 pm
by paboperfecto
Does that include physical? If I wear a dagger of massacre does that benefit my war hounds and minotaurs as well?

Re: Summoners

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:11 pm
by darkgod
yes

Re: Summoners

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:36 pm
by Dranwin
Does spellpower affect my summons at all? I am assuming not as summoners seem to not be a "magic" oriented class....but i wanted to double check.

Re: Summoners

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:37 pm
by Final Master
Dranwin wrote:Does spellpower affect my summons at all? I am assuming not as summoners seem to not be a "magic" oriented class....but i wanted to double check.
No, spellpower only effects things that say that they are scaled by magic [and some that don't say it because the description lacks it.] A better way to check is - does the talent have a magic requirement to obtain it? If yes, then almost 100% of the time, it benefits from higher spellpower.