ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

It seems that the primary effect of Adventurers starting with Combat Training locked is that a bunch of Adventurer builds are only viable on races that can immediately run to Last Hope for the unlock.

So... start Adventurers with Combat Training unlocked?

I don't see why not, I guess sometimes people find it hard to gather 50 gold in the first 4 levels.

Agreed, not having this tree is irritating at best for no reason.

Micbran wrote:I don't see why not, I guess sometimes people find it hard to gather 50 gold in the first 4 levels.

For a practical example of the sort of thing I'm talking about: my current project is an antimagic melee adventurer on insane. The start is trivial for, say, a cornac or halfling, because they can run to Last Hope and unlock Combat Training. A dwarf has to survive their starting dungeon first. The 50 gold isn't the issue. :p

(In this case, I modded my own copy of the game so as to unlock Combat Training for adventurers, but it seems like a simple quality-of-life change that could be done globally.)

Seconding this, with the addition of the Shoot talent as well (since it's not granted by weapons and some builds like steamguns require it).

Yeah adventurers not having combat training unlocked really messes with ID adventurer builds.

Its been modified in future versions.