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Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:10 am
by bpat
Title says it all. A simple tier 1 dispersal glove can be the difference between winning and losing and that being left to RNG is very lame. This is the only item I've considered vaulting aside from Telos staff parts because they are such rare drops and so essential for many classes. Something like 3-5 times the drop rate for this ego should solve this problem.

Edit: My level 50 Doomed just found one for the first time after farming seven Zigur patrols looking specifically for Dispersion gloves. Seems a bit too rare haha.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:16 am
by ster
agreed, it's stupid how many sustains you really need to remove with this or die (fearscape, bone shield and essence of speed being the first that come to mind) and the fact that you basically never find them outside of the initial shops

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:16 am
by Pumpkinreaper
imo, add an adventurer's essentials shop to the game where it always spawns with at least one pair and other types of gear/inscriptions considered essential.

Maybe make it force spawn spellhunt remnants in said shop as well if your character is AM, after the first restock if they aren't already in the game.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:21 am
by bpat
Adventurer's Essentials shop would be cool, but I can't think of anything that would be "essential" aside from Dispersal glove/Spellhunt Remains and maybe Silence torque. Force spawning Dispersal gloves after Dreadfell in the randart merchant shop could be a slightly clunky but very helpful improvement.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:37 am
by Davion Fuxa
I like the idea of making shopping more useful - this game isn't really good at making shopping useful....

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:49 am
by Razakai
I wonder if there shouldn't be a wand/rune/torque of dispersion added with a fairly common spawn rate or the like.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:51 am
by Radon26
"Disturbing totem"
So ugly, anyone who sees it loses focus and a few mental or magical sustains are disabled.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:00 am
by darkgod
"Rune of Stripping" (no not that stripping! :) )

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:50 am
by bpat
That would make a neat artifact Rune, maybe as a reward for the Urkis quest to parallel the Fungus reward for Antimagic characters. Something like 3 effects removed, sustains prioritized, 15 cooldown would be reasonable. Dunno if it should work on all effects or just magical ones, since magical effects are the ones you really want to remove, other than those it's pretty much just Call Shadows and Mitosis.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:27 pm
by darkgod
Humm It'd be a good reward a very good reward so I'm more likely to slap it on an evil choice in a quest! hummm lost merchant ? melinda ? hummmm

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:14 pm
by Mordy
There's already that taint the Withering thing uses that does that. Altough it might be far too OP to give to the player :p

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:33 pm
by Tryble
darkgod wrote:...so I'm more likely to slap it on an evil choice in a quest! hummm lost merchant ? melinda ? hummmm
I actually considered an addon for this very thing; having the assassin lord offer the player an item or two with valuable egos as 'hush money'. A choice between early game aid via assassin lord or late game aid via urthol.
Choosing between the rune of stripping and urthol's randarts would be a tough choice for a lot of people, I think!

Mordy wrote:There's already that taint the Withering thing uses that does that. Altough it might be far too OP to give to the player :p
That's actually a cool idea, too; evil choices as the only source of taints. Help assassin lord, permit melinda's sacrifice (or kill her), betray slasul & ukllmswwik...any others?
Maybe being a jerk and killing the last hope sealed scroll deliverer :lol:

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:48 pm
by jenx
Is there an issue though of game design here, if a particular rarish ego is required to clear the game?

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:10 pm
by Davion Fuxa
I'd think it would only be an issue if it is needed to clear the game and any character might be excluded from getting it for any reason.

Re: Greatly increase Dispersal glove ego drop rate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:09 pm
by jdisk
Tryble wrote:
I actually considered an addon for this very thing; having the assassin lord offer the player an item or two with valuable egos as 'hush money'. A choice between early game aid via assassin lord or late game aid via urthol.
Choosing between the rune of stripping and urthol's randarts would be a tough choice for a lot of people, I think!
Or let the Assassin Lord give you access to a store (fence, or somebody stealing on demand) that for a few thousand gold sell you a salmon item but with one choosable ego. So you get a guaranteed Dispersion or Quickening, but it might be only tier 1.