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"Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:59 pm
by Effigy
I didn't want to post this in Bugs because it's not a clear-cut issue, but I think it should be changed.

Most basic charms seem to cost about 3-4 gold. Most of the basic egos like "hateful" or "overpowered" increase the price to ~11-14 gold. For some reason, the "psionic" prefix increases the price to 35+ gold, and I think I've seen it as high as ~50 gold. For this added cost you get...an extra +0.17 psi per turn. The cost is totally out of proportion to the benefit, even if your class uses psi. Most classes don't, though, and all this does is inflate the cost of random torques outside of the player's starting budget, which leads to more start scumming.

I would recommend changing this ego to be a similar to price as "hateful" and similar things. Start scumming for things like a mindblast torque is annoying enough without having them inexplicably tripled in price and unaffordable.

Re: "Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:05 am
by 0player
No, but you don't understand, this is AUTHENTIC psionic torque, made by real psions! :)
I've just checked the code, the price for psionic and hateful is exactly the same (namely 5 gold). Did you see the problem on 1.2.5 or on beta?

Re: "Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:35 pm
by Effigy
This was on 1.2.5.

That's strange if they're the same cost mod. What else what be causing the massive price difference in these items? I'll keep an eye out if I see another example so I can show you the save file.

You say the price for those mods is 5 gold, but how is that applied? Is it multiplied by charm tier or something? It doesn't seem to be additive, based on the prices I've been seeing.

Re: "Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:59 pm
by edge2054
Yeah, someone must have fixed it. I just checked 1.3 they both sell for 0.4 gold.

Re: "Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:22 am
by HousePet
Different base item material level would do it.

Re: "Psionic" torque mod too expensive

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:49 am
by Effigy
That's probably part of it, but I'm seeing T3 mindblast torques with the "hateful" ego for about ~15 gold. If the "psionic" ego has the same cost modifier, I would expect them to cost about the same, but I still see some torques going for 40+ gold. I'll have to watch out, there may be other egos with the same cost spike. I think it would be best if all the non-rare+ T3 charms maxed out at <15gp vendor price so they can be purchased on a new character.