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FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.E.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:20 pm
by Zicher
Hey guys,

recently I suffered an extremely frustrating moment when my Sun Paladin paid 4000 gold to have a voratun battleaxe randart created at the Wondrous Emporium in Last Hope. All the stats were beautiful, huge base damage, +50% critrate and much more - but the weapon was powered by arcane disrupting forces, making it useless for me.

So my suggestion is: when such a randart is created, then first, if the character is a Ziguranth follower, then arcane-powered egos are not eligible for the randart (this may already be implemented, but I mention it just in case). If the character is not Ziguranth, then if the character class is spell-reliant (Sun Paladin, Archmage etc.), arcane-disrupting egos are not eligible for the randart.

I believe such checks are not too difficult to code and it will save players from some very frustrating moments, made even more frustrating by the fact that you can generally afford only two or three such randarts in a regular game.

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:55 pm
by Sradac
This should be doable. This was already done to make sure Antimagic characters cant get Arcane powered gear. This should be a simple enough check anyways:

Do you Qualify for Zigur / Antimagic?
if yes: Make anything, no restrictions
else: Dont make Antimagic.

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:33 pm
by Marson
I thought this was already not supposed to happen, at least for classes?
DG put a patch in for next release for undead.

http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=41688

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:49 pm
by Zicher
Marson wrote:I thought this was already not supposed to happen, at least for classes?
Well, it happened.
The randart in question is Zicher's Terrorizer.

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:05 pm
by Atarlost
Ideally, it should avoid antimagic equipment unless you're actually Zigurite. If you haven't joined Zigur by the time you're buying custom artifacts it's probably because you want to be able to use spells even if only in the form of usable artifacts or charms that don't impact your Zigur eligibility.

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:35 pm
by Zicher
I did not mean to be as strict as to limit arcane-disrupting to Ziguranth followers only, but then again - it makes sense. Classes which are not spell-reliant at first (most of fighter and rogue classes, and others as well) usually tend to have and use runes for hairy situations, and I guess I'm not the only one who does not like to have a teleport rune fail and waste a turn when I need to get out of a hairy situation quickly.

Re: FR: Do not allow unusable randarts to be generated at W.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:30 am
by HousePet
It is supposed to do everything stated here.