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New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:27 am
by The Revanchist
This name didn't bring up anything relevant in ideas forum, so I guess I'm free. :)

Foreword: Unless my two or three other addon concepts bear fruit, I probably won't develop this in a physical way. Which is a shame, I guess.

Sales Pitch
You all are no doubt aware of a Solipsist, they think their mind is the center of reality, and the far-gone ones seem to think reality IS their mind. They're looney, basically. But I don't care about that right now. What I care about is what happens if that perception... breaks.

General
The Shattered is an Afflicted Solipsist, utilizing their mind to destroy the current reality and replace it with the one in their head, the sick, twisted place it is. They use a combination of Psi and Hate. Or perhaps just hate... :(

Core Talents Those talents that "define" a class, basically. Like a Bulwark's shield wall, or a Necromancers Lichform.

Shattered
  • You have discovered that Your mind is not the center of reality. You are naught but a piece of it. But you will become the center...
    Grants a reduced Solipsism talent. (Perhaps two-thirds of a talent in Solipsism for every talent in Shattered?)
    You use your Hatred to fuel your life force, let it empower you. A percent of damage to your health will now recharge hate instead. (Not all that much life kept, but the Hate gain is the important part.)
Other talents in this tree will provide benefits for a high Hate bar, such as increased damage dealt, increased speed, and perhaps talent cooldown.
This tree will be unlocked at start, and unavoidable. The drawback is that everything goes down when at low Hate,except the Life to Hate conversion.


Walking Nightmare
  • Those in Your way will learn to fear you. You will make them fear you...
    Talent one: A sustain that inflicts constant mind damage in a small radius around you, based on Hate level. Higher hate = higher damage. Range increases with talent level.
    Talent two: Gives a chance to sleep enemies who enter your aura, as a passive, and grants an ability to deal massive damage to a sleeping enemy, with high range and damage, but low cost and cooldown.
    Talent three: A sustain that temporarily amplifies your aura, increasing the damage (that doesn't interfere with sleep), increasing the range, and trying to put every enemy that falls into range to sleep. Drains Hate and Psi rapidly.
    Talent four: Force sleeping enemies into your mind, where they are subject to your will. There will be a big explanation on this talent soon. Just bear with me.
Dread Forge
A tree that won't be unlike a hybrid of Dreamforge Hammer and Gestures. Just warning you.
  • Talent one: Create a Weapon of pure Hatred, to strike your foes with. Sustained.
    Talent two: Sustain, cannot be active with Talent one. Shape your hate, and launch it at your foes from afar.
    Talent three: Sustain, cannot be active with Talent one or two. Your hatred forms a tangible barrier, breaking enemy line of sight, and blocking damage while active.
    Talent four: Activated, disables Dread Forge talents. All enemies in your line of sight suffer massive damage, and killed enemies are resurrected as Hate Manifestations, explained elsewhere. I know I'm terrible. :)
These are the "core skills", so far. The bread and butter. I hope they aren't too similar to another class, because that would be unfortunate.

Feedback, anyone?

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:44 am
by Seian Verian
The name and the Waking Nightmares aura reminds me of my other Afflicted class idea, the Broken.

Overall I think it looks rather interesting.

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:57 am
by The Revanchist
Well... Anyone that wants t adopt it has a large grace period. I won't take it until at least one of my current projects are done, so it's open.

That talent does seem somewhat similar. Huh.
I only though it would be good as a replacement to Gloom, with a Solipsist spin.

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:19 am
by Faeryan
Can't really say much about it at this point but so far from reading the post it seems really well thought out. Highly interesting.

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:32 pm
by The Revanchist
Faeryan wrote:Can't really say much about it at this point but so far from reading the post it seems really well thought out. Highly interesting.
Yay! Interesting is what I'm aiming at.

As for well thought out... :?

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:07 pm
by Zeyphor
rename dreadforge to hatesmith

it sounds more like ToME and it sounds less... cheesy

I'm imagining things associated with this class

imagine a constant psionic vacuum around the head of the shattered, trying to incorporate everything that is not him or her into his or her mind so that your mind CAN become the center of everything

you hate things that refuse to become one with your mind, and you hate things with attributes that you do not like

if something is within your vacuum aura, you can attempt to deny its existence after some turns of being within it, either having the same affect as Rune of the Rift, or damaging it alot over a few turns

the denial would be a psionic channel, but would not break if you move

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:30 pm
by The Revanchist
Zeyphor wrote:rename dreadforge to hatesmith

it sounds more like ToME and it sounds less... cheesy
Aww... I liked the Dreadforge name. But it might seem... hammy.
Zeyphor wrote:I'm imagining things associated with this class
Glad I'm not the only one. :)
Zeyphor wrote:imagine a constant psionic vacuum around the head of the shattered, trying to incorporate everything that is not him or her into his or her mind so that your mind CAN become the center of everything

you hate things that refuse to become one with your mind, and you hate things with attributes that you do not like

if something is within your vacuum aura, you can attempt to deny its existence after some turns of being within it, either having the same affect as Rune of the Rift, or damaging it alot over a few turns

the denial would be a psionic channel, but would not break if you move
A reality-altering vacuum of hate? I thought you said I was being melodramatic! :)
In seriousness, though, I like that idea. It fits with the theme I wanted.
As for the damage-spike, I figured, since it involves the mind, it should work better on sleeping enemies. I'll have to update the descriptions to fit this new stuff.
Probably best to not work only on sleeping enemies, though. What with sleep-immune enemies...

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:39 pm
by Zeyphor
The Revanchist wrote:
Zeyphor wrote:rename dreadforge to hatesmith

it sounds more like ToME and it sounds less... cheesy
Aww... I liked the Dreadforge name. But it might seem... hammy.
Zeyphor wrote:the denial would be a psionic channel, but would not break if you move
A reality-altering vacuum of hate? I thought you said I was being melodramatic! :)
okay maybe cheesy wasn't the word I was looking for

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:43 pm
by The Revanchist
I don't mind you calling these ideas into question! If I did, why would I present them? :)

Feedback of this sort is important. Almost as important as the actual use of the ideas.

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:49 pm
by Crim, The Red Thunder
Hammy name is good. We need more Ham in Maj'Eyal.

Make the ham unBEARable.

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:26 pm
by Mewtarthio
To be honest, I find "hatesmith" cheesier than "dreadforge." Okay, they're both pretty cheesy, but "dreadforge" sounds cheesy in a grimdark fantasy way. Like, I could imagine an army of bloody orcs and demons shouting "Hail to the Dreadforge!", while "hatesmith" just makes me think of some guy in a suit saying "My name is Murderious K. Hatesmith, and I'm definitely not a villain!"

And ToME totally has room for cheesy. Remember that Necromancy spell that summons a bunch of helpless bunnies so you can rip out their souls?

Re: New Class Idea: Shattered

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:46 pm
by The Revanchist
You make compelling arguments... I'll try not to go overboard, though.

Still need to update those descriptions... eventually. :(