ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

And use randomly generated path/wilderness/etc zones (with some vaults/random events sprinkled around) to connect the current zones.

Yeah, probably an insane amount of work for little pay off, lol.

There's already been a couple goes at randomizing the world map, iirc. Give the forum a search or two, heh.

Yeah, simple fact is though it doesn't work all that well. People like knowing where to go each game, and not having to hunt all over the world map for locations. In fact this is already one annoying aspect of the world map in the game - why the hell do I have to explore every nook and cranny to find the elven ruins?

Hmm.. what I mean is instead of having:

Overworld map zone <-> Individual dungeon/town zones

It would be

Individual dungeon/town/wilderness/road zones connected in a grid with 2/4 "filler" wilderness/road zones that have random layouts/vaults/events in between each dungeons/town.

ex: W = random wilderness zone
= = random path zone
D = dungeon
T = town

Grey wrote:Yeah, simple fact is though it doesn't work all that well. People like knowing where to go each game, and not having to hunt all over the world map for locations. In fact this is already one annoying aspect of the world map in the game - why the hell do I have to explore every nook and cranny to find the elven ruins?

Well, maybe it could work if friendly npcs were able to give directions on request?

Ok, I'll bite:

"Why?"

See:

http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=24816
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25194
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25294

...but these haven't been touched for quite a while. There was even the ability to maintain relative location of dungeons, so Trollmire could always be north of Derth.

Dunno, the overworld seems out of place and nothing interesting really happens on it. It isn't a big deal, I guess.

Maybe I can make this as a module.

tiger_eye wrote:See:

http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=24816
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25194
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25294

...but these haven't been touched for quite a while. There was even the ability to maintain relative location of dungeons, so Trollmire could always be north of Derth.

Those are related but I'm talking about something else. Think grid of connected zones instead of hub zone that connects all the zones.

So... you don't like being able to choose which dungeon you go to next? Or having the ability to leave a dungeon and come back later? Or revisiting towns?

EDIT: Basically, what I'm getting is that you want a linked list structure where each dungeon is directly connected to the next one, instead of having every dungeon connected directly the world map.

Are you referring more to how T2 had interlinking wilderness that you could fight on and just go like that?

Mewtarthio wrote:So... you don't like being able to choose which dungeon you go to next? Or having the ability to leave a dungeon and come back later? Or revisiting towns?

EDIT: Basically, what I'm getting is that you want a linked list structure where each dungeon is directly connected to the next one, instead of having every dungeon connected directly the world map.

Like a multidimensional linked list.

Ideally, you would be able to travel orthogonally by walking into a border zone.

Final Master wrote:Are you referring more to how T2 had interlinking wilderness that you could fight on and just go like that?

Never played T2, but that sounds like the idea.

String wrote:

Mewtarthio wrote:So... you don't like being able to choose which dungeon you go to next? Or having the ability to leave a dungeon and come back later? Or revisiting towns?

EDIT: Basically, what I'm getting is that you want a linked list structure where each dungeon is directly connected to the next one, instead of having every dungeon connected directly the world map.

Like a multidimensional linked list.

Ideally, you would be able to travel orthogonally by walking into a border zone.

Ah, I understand now. Trouble is, you'd still only be able to visit dungeons adjacent to ones you've cleared, rather than being able to clear them in any order. You'd have to design a campaign from the ground up to accommodate that structure.

Also, you'd miss out on the fun of evading the zig.