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Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:28 am
by Crim, The Red Thunder
Alright, those of us who haven't fought the master and won, please leave to avoid spoilers.

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Alright, when the master fights you, he has a special trick, even alluded to in the lore found in the tower. However, especially for players who haven't seen it before, figuring out what's happening during this fight isn't the easiest thing in the world. Could we add a small dialog window about standing over the masters corpse, watching it rise again, maybe a taunt or two of mad ramblings? Just something that explained that he auto-resurrected? (Doesn't even have to say that it's once only, just something to explain to newcomers exactly WHY he suddenly has all his HP back.) Saw someone rant about 'OMG, MASTER IS BUGGED' after this happened, and had no clue that he was supposed to auto-revive. A bit of dialog shows that this is intended, and can even be used to offer us some banter with the master.

I mean, he gets all this buildup in the lore, as some mad villain, but he doesn't taunt us? It would be the perfect fight to toss some banter in, especially when he revives from the dead, just to show us the futility of the fight.

Thoughts? Anyone?

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:15 am
by HousePet
There is a message when an enemy is revived, some people just prefer to make a fool of themselves.

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:23 am
by XLambda
HousePet wrote:There is a message when an enemy is revived, some people just prefer to make a fool of themselves.
It's super easy to miss, and it's in the message log, which some people don't read anyway. There is also a message about your sustains/spells being disrupted by antimagic items, which people miss all the time and complain about in chat. I think these are important news for the player and should be harder to miss.

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:27 am
by darkgod
done

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:28 am
by HousePet
The only way to make it harder to miss would be to use large pictograms to explain the situation.
People never read text.
Sigh, I expect there would be complaints about the game bugging and displaying wierd pictograms anyway...

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:07 pm
by Grey
There is a flyout text saying "RESURRECT" as well. But it is easy to miss in the noise. The game log similarly fills up with noise, especially during the master fight when there can be many creatures active. It can even disappear off the log from further battle updates before you have a chance of seeing it. And people don't read text when 95% of the text is not that important.

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:05 pm
by Crim, The Red Thunder
Grey wrote:There is a flyout text saying "RESURRECT" as well. But it is easy to miss in the noise. The game log similarly fills up with noise, especially during the master fight when there can be many creatures active. It can even disappear off the log from further battle updates before you have a chance of seeing it. And people don't read text when 95% of the text is not that important.
I do read text, and I saw his 'reassemble' talent from inspection before I fought him, but I never saw a resurrect flyaway when he died (not on my first run, and I don't think I've noticed it on later runs either), and the log is generally filled with around 25 lines of dialog to scroll BACK up through, and the last time I looked, I also didn't see a line about the master resurrecting, though I may have missed it. Also, (Like grey says) When it takes 6 lines to display all the attack numbers on the last turn alone, not counting all the other creatures, yeah, it gets lost easily. Laggy computers may also have issues with the resurrect flyaway.

We don't need to slap the user in the face with everything that happens, but a simple (gentle) notice over the master's resurrection would be helpful. I'm glad this is added.

Re: Dialog added to Master fight. *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:35 pm
by Velorien
Fixed in SVN.