ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

I'm playing a geomancer in the ID and noticed that there is currently no way to enable the basic combat tree or to learn archery, because you normally have to buy those skills and there are no shops. Perhaps those skills can be unlocked/enabled by default for characters starting in the Infinite Dungeon.

I haven't played ID yet, but wouldn't it be cool to have market levels like in T2 and other RLs?
That way you could buy the skill if you get lucky and get by a market.

Or you could actually play the character the way it was intended... using robes and leather only, no heavy armor.

Actually I am more concerned about the lack of Health skill. This character is current level 28, has a con of 40 and barely breaks 300 hp. The low health will most likely be the death of this character when I run into an OOD ranged monster that can one shot me.

Ah, so, he's a mage. Good. That means, he's a mage.

Part of the point of the Infinite Dungeon is that you're deprived of all of those random bonuses. You don't get custom rings (let alone quest rings). You're missing the Sandworm Queen's reward. You can't get antimagic. You don't get health unless you start with it. No escort quests - and so on. Obviously, some of these will affect certain characters more than others. Specifically, true mages (who have the magic to make some of those escort quests really shine, and who don't have the health skill) get hosed, and anything equilibrium-based suffers for lack of antimagic.

If you really wanted those things, couldn't you start a character, get them, and then head into the ID?

I wasn't aware it was possible to take a normal character into the ID. How do you do it? Next beta perhaps?

Well, there's the entrance (with the great big "do not enter" sign) in the unlocking dungeon. Personally, I didn't go in with the one character who's made it that far because I had other things I wanted to do with him, but the possibility is at least implied. Is it possible?

Sirrocco wrote:Is it possible?

No.

should it be? Would it be feasible/reasonable for it to be? This is the ideas thread, after all.

Sirrocco wrote:Well, there's the entrance (with the great big "do not enter" sign) in the unlocking dungeon. Personally, I didn't go in with the one character who's made it that far because I had other things I wanted to do with him, but the possibility is at least implied. Is it possible?

It does not allow you to enter... or at least I have not been able to get in that way!

It would be "unfair" to build up a character with Maj'Eyal's benefits (escort quests, Last Hope weaponsmith, Zigur antimagic, Sandworm Queen's heart, delicious equipment) and take it into the Infinite Dungeon to "compete" with characters who start out there and lack those advantages.

There's something laudable, I think, in the "purity" of the ID, and I think it should be kept that way.

Oh, I don't think they should be judged on the sam playing field at all. Also, it would be obvious, since the non-pure characters would have completed quests.