ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

I just started playing an alchemist, I am very, very impressed. But I am actually feeling more as if I am playing the golem, not the alchemist, so I decided to see how many people feel this way.

A bomb focused alchemist can obliterate entire rooms in one or two blasts.

Late game the golem starts to lose its power, becoming little more than a diversion really (or so I've heard, I'm really bad with alchemist).

jilladilla wrote:Late game the golem starts to lose its power, becoming little more than a diversion really (or so I've heard, I'm really bad with alchemist).

I am sure that you are right. I started the alchemist only because I wanted to see how imbuing works, and whether it is worth getting on a different character. But I have been playing him (or rather his golem) for a while. I doubt I will start another alchemist after this one dies, but for now (level 29, cleared Dreadfall) I have been just using the golem as a rune-backed fighter, and the alchemist as fire support.

When I play an alchemist, I normally only switch to the golem when I'm leveling him up. The rest of the time he just does his own thing.

I'm not an awesome alchemist, but I don't think I've ever used the golem to fight. I just change his equips and set points when it levels up
And they get weaker later, so it makes a nice distraction while you burst enemies down with your bombs

Why isnt there a "- the golem, I only use it when my alchemist dies and even then its just to self destruct"?

Seriously, that golem is pretty useless

Early on it's nice to have something safe to use when opening up vaults and the like. But later on I've been finding the alchemist him/herself tanky enough for most situations. The golem is far from useless, especially if you boost its survivability, but I don't find I need to control it directly very often; it's just a great decoy and pack mule. I only have to directly command it when I need to switch its target.

The other super-useful golem thing? Mouse dream. I never would have finished it without being able to drag enemies back to my buddy to get vaporized.

Sebastian_ToME wrote:I just started playing an alchemist, I am very, very impressed. But I am actually feeling more as if I am playing the golem, not the alchemist, so I decided to see how many people feel this way.

If the golem dies you can always reconstruct him (via reconstruct skill or via supercharge golem), if the alchemist dies you lose, so it's better to (almost) always use the alchemist.

Besides the golem has two skills (more or less) so he can use them automatically while the alchemist has many skills (even if not as much as an archmage o arcane blade).
So I control him only to rearrange its inventory or inscriptions, for equipment, skill or attributes I use the alchemist skill (the same that allows you to rename him).


Everytime before I permanently died ( ) I never found the golem useless: with him I can anihilate evrything, except when this "everyting" aims at me.
It's more usefull when you transform him into superman (shooting lazer with eyes), so while he tanks enemies and does his superman thing you can activate firestorm, heat and bombs.

I'd find myself using it a lot more if it wasn't for a 1 turn delay between switches. I just can't justify switching with an enemy breathing down my neck, its suicide.

when i play alchemist which i rarely do i let my golem die asap and then run around and throw bombs

I tend to play the Alchemist mostly but when I do die (I play adventurer most of the time) I proceed to play along and see how far I can get as the golem. What got really hilarious was the one time I completed almost the entire ruined dungeon as the golem. Also I tend to use the golem when picking up the bits of loot with horrendous overkill numbers of traps around them in vaults. I find that if you equip it well the golem is a force to be reckoned with especially if you have supercharge golem and can therefore just constantly resend him to go die horribly against your enemies.