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Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:21 pm
by sehnsucht
Lots of background musics are their work.

e.g.
Thrall's Theme, used in Orc Breeding Pit;
Breaking the siege, used in Vor Pride and Gorbat Pride;
Woods of Eremae, used in Trollmire, Old Forest and Lake of Nur;
Virtue lost, used in Derth;
Bazaar of Tal Mashad, used in Ritches Tunnel, Rak' Shor Pride and ErĂșan;
Hold the Line, used in Charred Scar;
World of Ice, used in Daikara and Abashed Expanse;
Straight into Ambush, used in Zigur.

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:10 pm
by PureQuestion
All the music is, actually.

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:52 pm
by darkgod
With his permission and awareness :)

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:14 am
by Canderel
PureQuestion wrote:All the music is, actually.
Not quite, there are I think 2 other songs. The lost merchant quest music (hard rock guitar music), and the ancient elven ruins music (harp music).

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:29 am
by Massimiliano Marangio
Indeed. From the CREDITS file:

Musics:
- "A lomos del drag?n blanco" by Carlos Saura (http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/carlosaura)
- "Anne_van_Schothorst_-_Passed_Tense.ogg" by Anne van Schothorst (http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Anne_van_Schothorst)
- Nearly every other songs by Celestial Aeon Project (http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/celestial.aeon.project)

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:19 am
by XLambda
darkgod wrote:With his permission and awareness :)
What's the license? Can other people use them as well? :?

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:54 pm
by Canderel
They are CC attribution no commercial. Something like that IIRC.

But obviously if you use them all in conjunction the ToME project won't be too happy. We spent a fair bit of time sorting through songs, deciding what will fit the setting etc. But the license is the license. I remember me creating music for Tome way back when, and I heard it on another *band I played. I had mixed feelings. I contributed it to ToME (admittedly the music wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either), and then it was "snatched" by another band. I dunno... Anyway, so just in terms of the spirit of what I said is that the collection of music has been carefully considered and compiled, and to just compy it willy nilly because it's less effort than doing it yourself will not be appreciated.

I personally also emailed the other authors (not the Celestial project) to get their permissions, so they are aware of the game. Anyway, I've said my part. Hope I didn't come accross too strong. :wink:

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:15 pm
by XLambda
Canderel wrote:They are CC attribution no commercial. Something like that IIRC.

But obviously if you use them all in conjunction the ToME project won't be too happy. We spent a fair bit of time sorting through songs, deciding what will fit the setting etc. But the license is the license. I remember me creating music for Tome way back when, and I heard it on another *band I played. I had mixed feelings. I contributed it to ToME (admittedly the music wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either), and then it was "snatched" by another band. I dunno... Anyway, so just in terms of the spirit of what I said is that the collection of music has been carefully considered and compiled, and to just compy it willy nilly because it's less effort than doing it yourself will not be appreciated.

I personally also emailed the other authors (not the Celestial project) to get their permissions, so they are aware of the game. Anyway, I've said my part. Hope I didn't come accross too strong. :wink:
Nah, don't worry. I'm not one to copy others blindly. :wink:

In fact, I may end up getting a few custom pieces of soundtrack (connections in the indie scene, hehe), but I need to get off my lazy dev butt and finish coding first. :oops:

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:56 pm
by darkgod
I contacted matti and even sent him a donation because he deserves it :)

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:55 pm
by outolumo
CC-NC -licence?

Isn't ToME commercial once it's in Steam? You should check your licences - and if need be, get a specific license (As in: "The Author specifically allowes the use in the ToME project." or something.)

(Yes, Free Software can be commercial. You can sell it. But it's still Free - as in Freedom.)

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:46 pm
by darkgod
The author does indeed allow me, I guess I should put a note somewhere :)

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:24 pm
by outolumo
Credits -file sounds like a good place :wink:

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:10 am
by HousePet
The question still remains... Is Darkgod a fan???

We may never know. The truth is out there.

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:39 am
by outolumo
HousePet wrote:We may never know. The truth is out there.
No. But we can always speculate. He has used their music and contacted them...

Btw. If someone uses the score (selection) picked for the ToME project, they should in the least comply with the ToME license. The selection is covered with copyright, so to use it you need to comply with the license.

Re: Is Darkgod a fan of Celestial Aeon Project?

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:12 pm
by XLambda
outolumo wrote:
HousePet wrote:We may never know. The truth is out there.
Btw. If someone uses the score (selection) picked for the ToME project, they should in the least comply with the ToME license. The selection is covered with copyright, so to use it you need to comply with the license.
Look, I'm all for "not stealing" and "not copying blindly", especially since it would involve stealing from someone I deeply respect, but I think this would be over the top.
First, the ToME license is GPLv3, which is probably one of the most restrictive SW licenses in the world. Second, although I don't doubt that people have put a lot of work into selecting fitting pieces of music, I'm not sure the product of that work is covered by copyright. Third, if it's already licensed under CC-whatever, you can't just re-license it under a more restrictive license and demand that everyone obey your license instead.