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Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:45 pm
by Aquillion
So this talent heals you and everyone around you. Given that Anorithils have only one short-lived summoning talent, "everyone around you" generally means "the monsters that are trying to kill you."
This seems counterproductive. Am I missing some big secret trick to this talent? Granted, you could use it while fighting at long-range, but that seems a bit niche, especially since you never know when an enemy will rapidly close the distance using Rush or something similar.
(I know you can combo it with that Equilibrium talent that steals healing, but that's a bit niche itself -- one of a classes' basic talents shouldn't require a quest reward in a locked tree in order to be useful.)
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:51 pm
by edge2054
It also heals escorts, deals damage to undead and demons, and boosts your heal modifier.
The healing modifier is generally the biggest bonus for the player. The amount of healing the spell does can be pretty negligible.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:10 pm
by Canderel
I nominate it for buffing actually. It's decent to gain light energy, that's its most useful feature.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:13 pm
by Aquillion
edge2054 wrote:It also heals escorts, deals damage to undead and demons, and boosts your heal modifier.
The healing modifier is generally the biggest bonus for the player. The amount of healing the spell does can be pretty negligible.
I didn't know it hurt undead and demons. Still, the damage (assuming it's equal to the healing) isn't that great.
The heal mod is useful, sure, but that means you're spending two turns instead of one to heal yourself. Perhaps it should be instant? Though... an instant-speed light generator might be a bad thing; I could see people putting it on auto and basically regenerating light constantly. Hrm.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:48 pm
by greycat
edge2054 wrote:It also heals escorts, deals damage to undead and demons, and boosts your heal modifier.
And it lights up the terrain.
That is actually what I use it for the most.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:25 am
by eulf
Well, for Sun Paladins at least the talent is in a good place as is.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:17 pm
by Elkan
There is a certain spoilery object you can eat that gives the option of learning a wild gift that makes bathe in light very fun, when surrounded by a bunch of mobs you would otherwise be healing....
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:00 pm
by Aquillion
Elkan wrote:There is a certain spoilery object you can eat that gives the option of learning a wild gift that makes bathe in light very fun, when surrounded by a bunch of mobs you would otherwise be healing....
Yeah, I mentioned that. But it's odd for one of a classes' basic talents (not even the final talent in its tree, so you're forced to get it if you want the one after it) to be so dependent on an optional quest reward in a locked tree for full usefulness.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:42 am
by Silvermoon
It's worth noting that the benefit to enemies is reduced by the fact that usually you are only killing one monster at a time -- healing doesn't go beyond 100%, so an un-injured creature is not getting healed by the effect.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:42 pm
by greycat
Silvermoon wrote:It's worth noting that the benefit to enemies is reduced by the fact that usually you are only killing one monster at a time -- healing doesn't go beyond 100%, so an un-injured creature is not getting healed by the effect.
... what? You never use
any area effect or beam or damage-over-time talents at all?
Also, it hurts undead.
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:23 pm
by Silvermoon
Well, I don't play Sun Paladins, so I'm not terribly familiar with them, but I generally focus on taking out single targets and tactical positioning, so ... uh ... yes?
Re: Bathe In Light: What's the point of this talent?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:02 am
by Trogdor
Even still, plenty of enemies use aoe skills quite... indiscriminately.
