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Author:  Snarvid [ Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Multiple Heralds

I seem to be getting dual Herald of Oblivion procs from time to time. Anyone else experience this?

Author:  Cathbald [ Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Once, was on a vampire and his forgery of haze.

Author:  Snarvid [ Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Mmmm. I've had it at least 3 times that I have screenshots of. (What do people use to get screenshots in a readable format that is small enough to be posted here?)

Author:  PseudoLoneWolf [ Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Snarvid wrote:
Mmmm. I've had it at least 3 times that I have screenshots of. (What do people use to get screenshots in a readable format that is small enough to be posted here?)


Screenshots and imgur links?

Author:  Snarvid [ Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

I do take screenshots, they just have too much rez to be posted here. I often crop them, but sometimes you lose meaningful data.

Not on imgur because I don't want to experience the magic of the internet any more than I already do.

Author:  Snarvid [ Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

I have done this a ton of times now. May be something to do with All is Dust or Frenzy?

Author:  Cathbald [ Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Does it happens on clones only or not?
And it happened for me without using frenzy and without using all is dust

Author:  Snarvid [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

I'm going to say no... I certainly don't remember that being a connecting theme.

Maybe I got this picture thing right?

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Author:  Snarvid [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Interesting that they don't necessarily even share the same duration, and sometimes they don't both show in my summons bar.

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Author:  jammer312 [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

It happens when you have frenzy active when you summon herald. This passive is class talent, and after first summon it doesn't go on cooldown because of frenzy, allowing you to summon second herald (but you still need to raise nihil by applying magical debuffs)(summoning of herald nullifies debuff counter on enemy that triggers summon, thats why there's usually 2 heralds summoned at different time and so having different lifetime left).

Author:  Snarvid [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

Hmm. Frenzy is not supposed to effect talents that "take no turn to use," which Unravel Existence clearly qualifies for. But maybe the flag is something like "applies to all class talents UNLESS they say usage speed instant or have a fixed cooldown" rather than "applies only to class talents with a non-fixed cooldown or have usage speed >0% of a turn."

Should probably move this to bugs, then.

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but its pretty fun as is...

Author:  Cathbald [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Multiple Heralds

i did it without being a drem, frenzy is not the (only) culprit

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