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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:09 am 
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Power penalty is mostly irrelevant, only the lessened proc could be a drawback.
Power penalty is 20% of raw power so far less in effective. Say you have 80 effective powers without malus (you'll always have more late game but whatever).
That means you have 200 effective. With full malus you lose 20% or 40. 160 raw is still 70 effective, so you only lost 12.5%

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:01 pm 
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Ah, I gotcha.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:06 pm 
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Plus writhing one has overgrowth so the power penalty means even less then it usually does.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:48 pm 
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Good guide! I made a Writhing One just to work on unlocking the Drem but I'm having a lot of fun with him! I made a Shalore because my Ogre died early on - opened a bile sac on the opening dungeon ha. The WtW is really an interesting part of the class, don't think it would be near as good or fun without it.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:40 pm 
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Best prodidgy for Ogre-WO is You Shall Be My Weapon no discuss, it's even better than Arcane Might or at least equival to it.
Get +size gear, cast Overgrowth, strike with YSBMW! - get 7K damage with not optimazed gear with 10 turn cd.
Most bosses and rares just one-shotted by it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:44 pm 
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I dunno, i get >7k damage from lash out which is not a prod and has a lower CD.
And is AoE. And doesn't knock my target away from me if it doesn't kill it (knockback is bad on melee you know ?).

AM is so much superior to YSBMW it's not even funny to entertain the idea you'd want YSBMW for reasons other than "it's fun to use a prod noone does".

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:09 am 
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yeah, YSBMW sounds like a good idea, WITH Arcane Might, but with a weapon damage multiplier of 670%, I think we're expecting a damage about 20k instead of 7k.
and I dont think tentacle damage is affected by this multiplier, so maybe take ICCTW instead to further increase this burst damage? (but then your bump damage is probably much worse.)
Maybe time to update your prodigy guide, Cath :P


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:33 am 
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No I'm good, I already say YSBMW is a bad prod.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:17 pm 
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of course YSBMW is by far one of the best prodigies for any class. (but now I'm appealed to have this on that ring on my next WO lol.) what I wanted you to do is to change the "who benefits most" part to ogre WO.
and TBH why Cursed? Don't they hate active talents? Sawbutchers and Doombringers are probably better.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:45 pm 
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I'm not pretending I'm in charge of anyone else's decisions, but it might be easier to keep track of all arguments about YSBMW if we kept them in a single thread rather than reposting in every conversation where Prodigies are mentioned? I'd suggest Cath's Prodigy thread, where I just posted on why I think this disagreement might be happening, but I don't really care where it is so much as I hope that we pick a format that's comprehensible to someone just coming into one or the other thread without having to read both.

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